News review and Wellness Wednesday with Penny L.A. Shepard and Pamela Davis Reeves

Transcript recovered from the original November 30, 2022 recording. This automatic transcript retains the participants’ spoken claims and may contain recognition errors.

0:00:00 Hello, everybody,

0:01:33 and welcome to Patriots Perspective.

0:01:41 Got a little audio issue going on.

0:01:44 One second, everybody.

0:01:49 Okay, maybe that will work.

0:01:51 I apologize for that.

0:01:52 I am still practicing on all of you.

0:01:55 Sorry about those ears there.

0:01:57 Hope that you're having a

0:01:58 wonderful day because, man,

0:01:59 have I got some news for

0:02:01 you because we have the one, the only,

0:02:05 the awesome from the dark outpost,

0:02:07 Penny L.A.

0:02:08 Shepard.

0:02:09 Penny,

0:02:10 welcome back to Patriot's Perspective,

0:02:11 and thank you for bringing

0:02:12 your research here while David is away.

0:02:15 Thank you so much.

0:02:16 It's a pleasure as always.

0:02:18 And I did a little thing with your logo.

0:02:22 I did.

0:02:23 I love your logo.

0:02:25 So if you'll bring my PowerPoint in,

0:02:26 I'll show you what I did.

0:02:27 Oh, yes.

0:02:28 Well, that would be helpful, right?

0:02:30 Okay.

0:02:30 So here's what I did.

0:02:36 Oh, good.

0:02:38 Oh, yes.

0:02:38 You made it pink.

0:02:38 I just put, I put like,

0:02:40 it's like a stained glass window.

0:02:41 Oh, you know what?

0:02:42 Because it's like a window

0:02:44 into what we're going to be

0:02:45 bringing for Penny,

0:02:46 because you know what?

0:02:47 There's so many things that

0:02:48 mainstream media does not cover.

0:02:50 And if they do,

0:02:51 they kind of bury it to the

0:02:52 bottom because they don't

0:02:54 want anybody to come in and do that.

0:02:57 Yeah, so tell us what we've got today,

0:03:00 Penny.

0:03:01 Okay, so today we have Pamela Davis-Reeves,

0:03:05 Transform U Wellness Wednesday,

0:03:07 and she'll be on, actually,

0:03:09 she'll be on for the

0:03:10 majority of the show.

0:03:11 How about we just bring her in now?

0:03:13 Yeah,

0:03:14 and we've scheduled her for her section,

0:03:16 for her segment, from twelve to one p.m.,

0:03:19 and I did a little,

0:03:21 I did a little moving.

0:03:22 That's good.

0:03:25 Oh, you did a little moving.

0:03:26 She's going to stand out.

0:03:27 She's going to stand out

0:03:28 like a flamingo and a flock of pigeons.

0:03:33 That's correct.

0:03:34 And because flamingo,

0:03:35 as far as I'm concerned,

0:03:36 is the Florida national state bird.

0:03:38 That is.

0:03:39 I know because I live there.

0:03:41 And then tomorrow, we're going to tomorrow,

0:03:43 Thursday, December first and Friday,

0:03:44 December second.

0:03:46 We're going to be bringing in.

0:03:48 A very good friend of mine, Nick Alvier,

0:03:50 Goodline TV.

0:03:52 He has he's a documentarian, a musician,

0:03:56 a director, a producer.

0:03:58 He was also arrested in the

0:04:00 January six debacle for

0:04:02 smoking a doobie in the Capitol.

0:04:05 Very mellow and intelligent

0:04:07 and articulate individual.

0:04:10 I love him.

0:04:11 And so we're going to be

0:04:11 bringing him in for

0:04:13 commentary tomorrow and

0:04:16 give him a little promotion

0:04:17 for Good Lion TV, which is awesome.

0:04:21 Yes,

0:04:21 he's kind of backed up everything into

0:04:23 Good Lion TV, right?

0:04:24 Like some of those censored videos.

0:04:27 No, he's a documentarian.

0:04:29 So if you sign up for Good Lion TV,

0:04:31 you're going to get

0:04:32 something like fifty or sixty documents,

0:04:34 documentaries that he has

0:04:36 personally produced himself.

0:04:38 He's he's done the music.

0:04:39 He's done the research.

0:04:41 He's put the documentaries together.

0:04:44 Most notably, Peto Wood.

0:04:45 He said he was working on a

0:04:46 documentary on.

0:04:47 when he went to the Capitol

0:04:49 and then subsequently he

0:04:50 was arrested for smoking in the Capitol.

0:04:53 And it's amazing that he did

0:04:58 get it addressed and he was

0:05:00 incarcerated for, I think he said,

0:05:02 forty five days in solitary

0:05:04 confinement at one point.

0:05:07 So I'm sure he's going to

0:05:08 have a lot to say about

0:05:09 this recent decision

0:05:11 regarding the Oath Keepers.

0:05:13 And I have some news on that as well.

0:05:17 That's awesome.

0:05:18 So I'm going to play our

0:05:19 little breaking news theme.

0:05:20 I got you your own theme and I,

0:05:22 and I redid your PowerPoint just for you.

0:05:24 You're awesome.

0:05:41 You're so professional.

0:05:44 I like the end.

0:05:44 It's like little signals from out west.

0:05:49 Okay, so today, this is from CNN.

0:05:50 Former Chinese president,

0:05:52 I'm not sure if I'm going

0:05:52 to say his name right, Jiang Zemin,

0:05:56 dead at ninety-six of cancer.

0:05:57 He led China in the years

0:05:59 after the Tiananmen Square protests.

0:06:01 This is two minutes and

0:06:02 forty-seven seconds.

0:06:03 You can stop me.

0:06:03 He was the communist

0:06:04 hardliner with a softer side.

0:06:04 Jiang Zemin was also a shrewd

0:06:13 Young Zameen.

0:06:16 of power after the massacre

0:06:18 of pro-democracy

0:06:18 demonstrators in Tiananmen

0:06:20 Square in nineteen eighty nine.

0:06:22 He didn't order the crackdown,

0:06:23 but was handpicked by the man who did,

0:06:25 Supreme Leader Deng Xiaoping.

0:06:27 A year after the bloodshed,

0:06:28 Jiang Zemin told America's

0:06:30 ABC News it was, quote,

0:06:31 much ado about nothing.

0:06:33 Much ado about nothing.

0:06:34 He was written off by most

0:06:36 as a political lightweight

0:06:37 who wouldn't last.

0:06:38 He was known as the flowerpot.

0:06:40 Lots of decoration and no action.

0:06:42 But history would prove them wrong.

0:06:45 Jiang Zemin has had many

0:06:46 more successes than failures,

0:06:49 and he surprised many

0:06:50 people with his staying power.

0:06:52 As leader,

0:06:52 he courted the military and was

0:06:54 determined to keep the

0:06:55 communists in power while

0:06:56 pushing ahead with economic reforms.

0:06:59 He's definitely not going to

0:07:00 be remembered as China's Gorbachev.

0:07:03 He's not even close.

0:07:06 On an official U.S.

0:07:07 visit in nineteen ninety seven,

0:07:08 Jiang was lauded by Wall Street.

0:07:11 and chastised by President

0:07:13 Bill Clinton over human rights.

0:07:15 On this issue,

0:07:15 we believe the policy of the

0:07:16 government is on the wrong

0:07:18 side of history.

0:07:20 But he never gave ground on

0:07:22 political reforms and

0:07:23 explained why during a rare

0:07:25 interview with CNN.

0:07:27 I do think that to require

0:07:28 all countries to adopt the

0:07:29 same model of democracy

0:07:31 would itself be undemocratic.

0:07:34 He was leader when Hong Kong

0:07:36 was handed back to the mainland.

0:07:38 when Beijing was awarded the

0:07:39 Olympics and business

0:07:41 people were allowed to become communists.

0:07:44 In two thousand and three,

0:07:45 he retired as president.

0:07:47 A year after that,

0:07:47 he gave up his last post as

0:07:49 China's military commander,

0:07:51 completing the first smooth

0:07:52 leadership transition ever

0:07:54 in communist China.

0:07:56 So I want to thank you for

0:07:58 accepting my resignation,

0:07:59 he said at the time.

0:08:01 Jiang still exerted

0:08:03 political influence behind

0:08:04 the scenes for years,

0:08:06 including the selection of

0:08:07 current Chinese leader Xi Jinping,

0:08:09 who secured a norm-busting

0:08:10 third term as party head.

0:08:13 Xi,

0:08:14 China's most powerful leader in decades,

0:08:16 has eviscerated political rivals,

0:08:18 including those in Jiang's faction,

0:08:21 and rolled back much of the

0:08:22 economic and personal

0:08:23 freedoms enjoyed during the Jiang era.

0:08:26 In retirement,

0:08:27 Jiang reportedly sang an

0:08:29 aria at Beijing's National

0:08:30 Grand Theatre before it was

0:08:31 officially opened.

0:08:36 For a man who once ruled

0:08:37 more than a billion people,

0:08:39 the performance was said to

0:08:41 be the fulfillment of a

0:08:42 lifetime ambition.

0:08:46 They love karaoke.

0:08:47 Every time I've worked,

0:08:50 every time I've gone to China,

0:08:52 we've always had to go to karaoke, Penny.

0:08:55 And I just wanted to let

0:08:56 everybody know that's tuning in.

0:08:58 Some people are looking for us on YouTube.

0:09:00 We have been banned off of YouTube.

0:09:03 Evidently, our yesterday's guest,

0:09:05 who is a U.S.

0:09:06 Marine,

0:09:07 was considered bullying the public.

0:09:09 Penny, can you believe that?

0:09:11 No, I cannot.

0:09:12 You know,

0:09:13 I think that we need to showcase

0:09:15 people who have divergent opinions and,

0:09:18 you know, and give them a forum.

0:09:20 He's a very prolific individual,

0:09:23 and I'm sorry that it was

0:09:25 perceived in that manner.

0:09:26 Yeah, me too.

0:09:28 I just wanted to let

0:09:28 everybody know we are

0:09:29 banned off of YouTube.

0:09:31 Please make sure that you

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0:09:45 Excellent.

0:09:46 Yes.

0:09:48 So the follow-up to that story, again,

0:09:50 which we presented yesterday,

0:09:51 was the COVID protests.

0:09:53 So they apparently are

0:09:54 escalating in China.

0:09:55 Can you say this word?

0:09:57 Is that right?

0:09:57 Is that correct?

0:09:59 Yeah.

0:10:00 Sometimes it's a little small,

0:10:04 and I can't see it.

0:10:05 Oh, Guangzhou.

0:10:06 That's Guangzhou.

0:10:06 That's where I go.

0:10:07 It's called Guangzhou.

0:10:08 Thank you.

0:10:09 Thank you.

0:10:11 Guangzhou.

0:10:12 Guangzhou.

0:10:13 Guangzhou.

0:10:14 Guangzhou.

0:10:16 Okay,

0:10:16 so COVID protests escalate in China's

0:10:21 Guangzhou.

0:10:23 So let me describe Guangzhou as a city.

0:10:25 OK, so Guangzhou about ten years ago,

0:10:27 but don't quote me exactly on years,

0:10:30 but about ten, maybe fifteen years ago,

0:10:31 it was nothing but farmland.

0:10:33 Now it is really massive.

0:10:35 Yes.

0:10:35 It's this massive city

0:10:38 residents report that it just like pop.

0:10:40 You just you know,

0:10:41 they just all of a sudden

0:10:42 started building these buildings.

0:10:44 And basically,

0:10:45 it's like the area that I go

0:10:47 to is like a mall.

0:10:49 It's like a massive mall and a tower.

0:10:51 And I'm talking about like

0:10:52 maybe thirty stories high.

0:10:55 There's almost no one in it

0:10:57 other than buyers of

0:10:59 lighting and home furnishings.

0:11:01 That's weird.

0:11:02 Like in other words,

0:11:02 you can't go there and

0:11:03 actually buy anything just for storage.

0:11:07 owners,

0:11:07 manufacturers like myself to be

0:11:09 able to go there and actually see things.

0:11:12 So the biggest thing that I

0:11:12 can equate it to here in

0:11:14 America is World Market Center, Las Vegas,

0:11:17 Dallas Market Center at

0:11:19 America's Mart in Atlanta

0:11:20 would be the closest thing that I know.

0:11:23 The apparel mart at

0:11:27 America's Mart Atlanta

0:11:28 would be the closest thing.

0:11:29 So people don't live there?

0:11:31 No.

0:11:31 Well, yeah, people live in Guangzhou,

0:11:34 but not the farmers and

0:11:36 things that used to live in Guangzhou.

0:11:40 So it's more for manufacturers.

0:11:43 The hotels and stuff are very nice.

0:11:45 But the manufacturers are,

0:11:47 I'm going to call us,

0:11:48 we're handled when we go.

0:11:50 We're not allowed to.

0:11:51 You can't rent a car.

0:11:53 I never pay for anything.

0:11:55 Even when I go to Starbucks,

0:11:56 there's one of my manufacturer's helpers,

0:12:00 because every manufacturer

0:12:02 in China is owned by the

0:12:04 Chinese Communist Party.

0:12:06 So it's very important for

0:12:08 people to realize that, you know,

0:12:10 they are not free.

0:12:11 You're not free when you go there.

0:12:13 It's not that I don't have a nice time.

0:12:16 It's about the people.

0:12:16 The people are very nice.

0:12:18 But in terms of the area,

0:12:19 people would be very

0:12:20 surprised because you think like,

0:12:22 you know,

0:12:22 one day I just wanted to go out

0:12:24 sourcing and to meet

0:12:26 manufacturers kind of on my own.

0:12:28 Well, I couldn't.

0:12:29 They took me everywhere.

0:12:30 They had to pay for everything.

0:12:34 So they don't want you

0:12:35 walking around in the city

0:12:36 and finding out stuff.

0:12:37 That's right.

0:12:38 That's exactly right.

0:12:39 They will not allow it.

0:12:40 It's not even that you can't.

0:12:42 You cannot.

0:12:43 You're with them the whole entire time.

0:12:45 You have a handler.

0:12:46 I didn't know it.

0:12:46 I didn't really.

0:12:48 The last time I was there

0:12:49 was two thousand seventeen.

0:12:51 I really did not realize

0:12:53 that it was a handler.

0:12:54 And then when I got back, I was like, OK.

0:12:57 Do you recognize any of

0:12:58 these places while you're

0:12:59 looking through here?

0:13:00 I just turned the volume down.

0:13:01 Yeah, it looks very similar.

0:13:02 So all the smaller places that are around,

0:13:05 yeah, it looks very similar.

0:13:07 I'll actually try to go

0:13:08 through and post a lot of

0:13:09 my photos if we come across

0:13:12 the taller buildings.

0:13:15 It looks like they're

0:13:16 knocking down barriers.

0:13:17 There's a market,

0:13:18 an open market out there.

0:13:20 People are filming as

0:13:21 they're… Are these the

0:13:24 forces that are taking

0:13:25 people down in the white suits?

0:13:28 Yeah, I mean, you know, when I was there,

0:13:30 they do, the air is very dirty there.

0:13:34 The river basically running

0:13:37 through Guangzhou and that

0:13:39 entire region looks like mud.

0:13:41 It's so dirty.

0:13:42 Hey, they're doing COVID tests before,

0:13:44 they're doing COVID stuff

0:13:45 before the people go into

0:13:46 the markets and stuff.

0:13:47 Hold on a second.

0:13:48 I'm going to see if she's

0:13:49 speaking English.

0:13:51 It will be more troublesome

0:13:53 for the elderly to get this disease.

0:13:55 Now the state is still

0:14:01 providing vaccines to protect yourself.

0:14:02 The state cares about you,

0:14:02 so it will get better.

0:14:03 They're doing COVID tests on the street,

0:14:04 Christy.

0:14:05 They're doing it here in Miami, too.

0:14:08 Like that?

0:14:09 Yeah, they've been doing it.

0:14:10 Very similar, yeah.

0:14:11 Okay, that's crazy.

0:14:14 Yeah.

0:14:14 That's crazy.

0:14:16 It's a fear porn thing, Penny.

0:14:17 It's a fear porn thing.

0:14:19 And so if people don't take

0:14:20 off their mask and they're

0:14:21 going to continue to do it, the city,

0:14:24 Miami-Dade County has been

0:14:26 under lockdown for almost three years.

0:14:28 I mean, the mayor here keeps…

0:14:31 like expanding the emergency

0:14:34 use authorization because

0:14:35 she keeps making money off of it.

0:14:37 OK,

0:14:38 we already get we're already operating

0:14:40 on a seven billion dollar

0:14:42 with a B budget.

0:14:42 OK,

0:14:43 so that's just I just want to let you

0:14:48 know that they're the covid

0:14:49 protests in China are

0:14:50 actually they're escalating now.

0:14:54 I would presume any kind of

0:14:55 an escalation like that is

0:14:56 going to result in people

0:14:58 getting taken to camps and disappeared.

0:15:01 That's just my assessment.

0:15:03 Most definitely will there.

0:15:05 This was one that John Carman gave me.

0:15:07 It was a dating app predator

0:15:09 is in custody.

0:15:09 Now in police custody.

0:15:10 Franklin police arrested

0:15:10 Timothy Olson this morning.

0:15:12 Police have been looking for

0:15:13 the fifty two year old is

0:15:20 accused in Timothy Olson

0:15:23 I believe this is in Wisconsin.

0:15:25 Police consider him a person

0:15:26 of interest in the death of

0:15:27 Kim McCoolins earlier this month.

0:15:30 And in Franklin,

0:15:31 where just last week police

0:15:32 say he forced a seventy

0:15:34 nine year old woman into

0:15:35 her car at gunpoint.

0:15:36 WISN twelve news.

0:15:37 Hannah Hilliard joins us

0:15:38 live tonight from the

0:15:38 Franklin Police Department.

0:15:40 That's where Olson is right now.

0:15:43 Rightway undergoing

0:15:44 questioning from three

0:15:46 police departments right now.

0:15:48 Now we do know officers were

0:15:49 able to arrest Timothy

0:15:51 Olson this morning right

0:15:52 here in Franklin.

0:15:53 It's also here in Franklin.

0:15:55 We are learning about this

0:15:56 new incident where Olson is

0:15:58 accused of forcing a

0:16:00 seventy nine year old woman

0:16:01 into her own car at gunpoint.

0:16:03 Did he drive her around?

0:16:08 Yes, she did.

0:16:08 To ATMs?

0:16:09 Well, at least one.

0:16:09 But again,

0:16:13 This is all I know.

0:16:16 So that happened last Wednesday.

0:16:17 It was last night.

0:16:19 Olson was spotted at Grill Shack on South.

0:16:21 Twenty seventh in Franklin.

0:16:23 This morning,

0:16:23 police shared the

0:16:24 surveillance photo photo

0:16:25 from that restaurant, warning the public.

0:16:28 And then later this morning,

0:16:29 an officer spotted Olson

0:16:31 pushing a bike near a condo complex.

0:16:33 They got him or they got

0:16:35 into a struggle with an

0:16:37 officer and an officer

0:16:38 ended up having to use a taser on Olson.

0:16:40 Tonight,

0:16:41 Franklin police say Olson will

0:16:42 likely face kidnapping,

0:16:44 burglary and identity theft

0:16:45 charges here in Franklin.

0:16:47 Okay,

0:16:47 so just want to let you know if

0:16:48 anyone's concerned or anyone did not know,

0:16:51 please be careful if you're

0:16:52 on a dating app.

0:16:52 Yes.

0:16:55 You know, that's my assessment here.

0:16:57 This was a weirdo news story.

0:17:00 Five cars rented by the

0:17:01 Biden family burst into

0:17:02 flames at the Nantucket airport.

0:17:04 So this is kind of a… Is

0:17:07 this a devil thing?

0:17:12 I'm wondering if this is, you know,

0:17:13 I mean…

0:17:15 To hide exculpatory evidence?

0:17:17 Yeah.

0:17:18 That's a lot of cars.

0:17:19 That's five, not one.

0:17:20 Yeah, exactly.

0:17:22 And they say the Biden

0:17:23 family wasn't in these cars.

0:17:26 But, and you know,

0:17:29 Was it to point out something?

0:17:30 Because they're not completely burned.

0:17:32 So if there was evidence inside them,

0:17:33 you'd still be able to

0:17:36 maybe decipher if there's

0:17:37 independent DNA in there,

0:17:38 if there was a crime that

0:17:39 was committed in there.

0:17:40 But that's just very, very weird.

0:17:42 Five cars rented by the

0:17:43 Secret Service during

0:17:44 President Joe Biden's

0:17:45 Thanksgiving vacation in

0:17:46 Nantucket burst into flames.

0:17:49 At an airport, a day after they returned,

0:17:51 according to a Secret Service spokesman,

0:17:53 Anthony Guglielmi,

0:17:59 said the vehicles were

0:18:00 rented from a Hertz outlet

0:18:01 at the Nantucket Memorial

0:18:02 Airport for use during the

0:18:03 president's family vacation

0:18:04 over the Thanksgiving holiday.

0:18:07 The fire happened a day

0:18:08 after they were returned.

0:18:09 So that's kind of weird.

0:18:11 None of the Biden family

0:18:12 members rode in the vehicles,

0:18:13 Guglielmi said.

0:18:15 According to The Current,

0:18:16 the cars that were heavily

0:18:17 damaged or destroyed

0:18:18 included a Chevy Suburban,

0:18:20 a Ford Explorer, a Ford Expedition,

0:18:23 a Jeep Gladiator, and an Infiniti QX-AD.

0:18:27 So this is from the Nantucket Current,

0:18:29 and they were showing you,

0:18:30 we already showed you that video.

0:18:32 And approximately five twenty two a.m.

0:18:34 airport shift staff observed

0:18:36 an active fire in the

0:18:37 rental car overflow area

0:18:38 through the airport's

0:18:39 closed circuit television system.

0:18:40 The airport said in a

0:18:41 statement staff activated

0:18:43 the alert system responded

0:18:44 to the fire in airport

0:18:45 three where they were met

0:18:46 by responding units.

0:18:47 And here's another thought.

0:18:48 Was this actually meant for a diversion?

0:18:53 OK,

0:18:54 so when they're responding to this fire,

0:18:56 what else is going on?

0:18:58 It just seems contrived to me.

0:18:59 What are your thoughts?

0:19:00 Yeah, absolutely.

0:19:02 I definitely think it sounds

0:19:03 like it's a situation where.

0:19:05 Yeah, right.

0:19:08 You know, my question is,

0:19:09 what happened to the Biden Thanksgiving?

0:19:10 Are there dead bodies somewhere?

0:19:13 You know,

0:19:13 what what what was this looks to

0:19:16 me now more like it's a diversion.

0:19:19 What do you think?

0:19:22 That's.

0:19:25 She's not saying nothing.

0:19:28 She's not saying nothing.

0:19:29 Okay.

0:19:30 This is an article from the National.

0:19:32 The Senate is poised to

0:19:33 codify legal protection for

0:19:34 same-sex marriage.

0:19:35 Have you heard about this yesterday?

0:19:37 No, I've not.

0:19:41 The volume's a little low,

0:19:42 but we can talk over it.

0:19:44 Oh, yeah.

0:19:45 Well, this is OK.

0:19:46 This this is actually where

0:19:47 there's been several

0:19:48 Republicans that actually

0:19:50 voted to protect the same sex marriage.

0:19:53 Right.

0:19:54 Amongst a lot of a lot of

0:19:57 Christians here in Miami

0:19:59 are very focused on this.

0:20:00 Twelve years ago,

0:20:02 gay sex was actually

0:20:04 against the law just across

0:20:05 the river from here in Virginia.

0:20:07 So gay sex twelve years ago

0:20:09 was against the law.

0:20:10 Yeah.

0:20:11 Gay sex, they're saying.

0:20:14 Today's ruling felt… I mean,

0:20:16 there are a lot of these

0:20:18 things still on the books.

0:20:20 …of marriage since the

0:20:21 nineteen sixty-seven

0:20:22 decision that struck down

0:20:23 bans on interracial matrimony.

0:20:25 It's a clear, historic declaration.

0:20:28 …that the four words

0:20:29 etched onto the front of

0:20:30 the Supreme Court,

0:20:32 equal justice under law, apply to us,

0:20:36 too.

0:20:36 Jim Obergefell's husband, John,

0:20:39 was still alive when they

0:20:40 began fighting Ohio's

0:20:42 refusal to recognize their marriage.

0:20:44 When John died of ALS,

0:20:46 Ohio refused to list

0:20:48 Obergefell's name on the

0:20:49 death certificate.

0:20:50 No American should have to

0:20:52 suffer that indignity.

0:20:53 Clearly,

0:20:54 Justice Anthony Kennedy had that

0:20:57 in mind when he wrote for

0:20:58 the majority that as some

0:21:00 of the petitioners in these

0:21:02 cases demonstrate,

0:21:03 marriage embodies a love

0:21:05 that may endure even past death.

0:21:08 They ask for equal dignity

0:21:10 in the eyes of the law.

0:21:12 It is so ordered.

0:21:13 Later,

0:21:14 the president emerged from the White

0:21:15 House to praise the long

0:21:17 legal struggle that ended this morning.

0:21:19 Sometimes there are days like this,

0:21:22 when that slow,

0:21:24 steady effort is rewarded

0:21:28 with justice that arrives

0:21:34 Like a thunderbolt.

0:21:35 Not too long ago,

0:21:36 Obama himself opposed gay marriage,

0:21:38 as did most other political leaders.

0:21:40 That's weird, right?

0:21:41 Yeah.

0:21:42 Hold on, Penny.

0:21:43 I definitely have something

0:21:46 to say about that one.

0:21:47 Right.

0:21:48 How in the heck would Obama

0:21:51 have a moment to, mom,

0:21:53 what do you think about

0:21:54 Obama opposing gay marriage?

0:21:58 Well,

0:22:00 He's the hypocrite that he's always been.

0:22:03 What can I say?

0:22:05 Maybe because he's married to Michael.

0:22:09 But he opposed gay marriage.

0:22:10 So it's a good front, right?

0:22:13 It's a great front.

0:22:14 Yeah.

0:22:16 Don't watch what they say

0:22:17 and don't hear what they say.

0:22:19 Watch what they do.

0:22:21 So basically what this means

0:22:23 is the Senate passed the

0:22:24 same-sex marriage bill,

0:22:25 which goes back to the House for a vote.

0:22:27 And then Biden was meeting

0:22:28 with congressional leaders

0:22:30 on behalf of this.

0:22:31 I'm going to play just a

0:22:31 little bit of this.

0:22:37 passed a bill that would

0:22:38 protect same-sex marriages

0:22:39 under federal law.

0:22:40 Now it goes back to the

0:22:42 House for a vote there

0:22:42 before President Biden can

0:22:44 make it official with his signature.

0:22:46 Earlier yesterday,

0:22:47 the president hosted a

0:22:48 meeting at the White House

0:22:49 with Democratic and GOP

0:22:50 congressional leaders.

0:22:51 He discussed his priorities

0:22:53 before the start of the next Congress,

0:22:54 and he emphasized the need

0:22:56 for both sides to work

0:22:57 together going forward.

0:23:00 We're going to work together to fund,

0:23:01 I hope,

0:23:02 work together to fund the

0:23:03 government with the COVID

0:23:04 and the war in Ukraine,

0:23:06 all controversial and

0:23:07 consequential issues.

0:23:08 And we're going to find

0:23:10 other areas of common ground, I hope,

0:23:11 because America people want

0:23:13 us to work together.

0:23:16 Joining us now,

0:23:16 NBC News White House

0:23:17 correspondent Carol Lee and

0:23:18 Capitol Hill correspondent Ryan Nobles.

0:23:20 Good morning to both of you.

0:23:21 So, Ryan,

0:23:22 let's begin with you there on

0:23:23 Capitol Hill.

0:23:24 One of these top priorities

0:23:25 for the president was

0:23:26 codifying same-sex marriage.

0:23:28 The Senate yesterday passed

0:23:29 a bill that would give

0:23:30 federal protection to same-sex couples.

0:23:32 The bill received bipartisan support,

0:23:34 which is what it needed to pass.

0:23:35 So explain to us the

0:23:36 importance of this and

0:23:37 what's next now for this

0:23:38 legislation as it makes its

0:23:40 way through Congress to the president.

0:23:42 Well, Joe,

0:23:42 it's really remarkable when you

0:23:44 think about how far the

0:23:45 debate over same-sex

0:23:46 marriage has come in this

0:23:47 country that you would get

0:23:49 such a strong bipartisan

0:23:51 vote in support of

0:23:52 protecting same-sex

0:23:53 marriage across the country

0:23:54 like we saw here in the

0:23:56 United States Senate yesterday.

0:23:58 This doesn't go as far as

0:23:59 completely codifying the

0:24:01 Supreme Court ruling that

0:24:02 protects same-sex marriage

0:24:03 across the country.

0:24:04 But what it does do is it

0:24:06 holds in place that the

0:24:08 marriages that currently

0:24:09 exist will be protected

0:24:10 under the law if for some

0:24:12 reason that Supreme Court

0:24:13 decision is overturned.

0:24:14 And that really was born out

0:24:16 of the Dobbs decision,

0:24:18 which overturned Roe v.

0:24:19 Wade and concerns by

0:24:20 Democrats that that could

0:24:21 be the next step in the

0:24:23 Supreme Court.

0:24:23 So that's why Democrats

0:24:25 found it to be important.

0:24:26 Now,

0:24:26 there are some protections in there

0:24:28 for religious freedom,

0:24:29 which Republicans were concerned about.

0:24:30 Those were the concessions

0:24:32 that were made to get it

0:24:33 over the finish line.

0:24:34 This bill will now go back to the House,

0:24:36 where it's expected to swiftly pass,

0:24:38 and then will go to

0:24:39 President Biden to be signed into law.

0:24:41 Joe, this could happen quickly.

0:24:42 This could be the law of the

0:24:44 land by as soon as the end of this week.

0:24:46 Okay, so thoughts on this?

0:24:48 Well,

0:24:49 I think that the whole thing is not

0:24:51 only interesting, Penny,

0:24:53 but actually it would be a

0:24:54 little unconstitutional for

0:24:56 us to tell somebody who

0:24:57 that they can have sex with

0:24:58 to begin with.

0:24:59 I agree.

0:24:59 So, I mean, that's my thing on it.

0:25:02 Listen,

0:25:03 the Bible tells us that sex is

0:25:06 between one man and one woman.

0:25:08 That's everybody's choice in

0:25:09 terms of what they're going

0:25:11 to do and if they're going

0:25:12 to abide by God's laws or

0:25:16 if they're going to abide by

0:25:17 the Bible or the Quran or

0:25:20 whatever they're going to abide by.

0:25:21 I mean, I know what I'm going to,

0:25:24 but that doesn't mean I'm

0:25:25 going to force anybody else

0:25:27 to do the same because I

0:25:28 think we all have free will

0:25:29 and we're all constitutionally protected.

0:25:31 I agree.

0:25:33 Pamela?

0:25:35 I agree with you guys.

0:25:38 I actually do.

0:25:39 I mean,

0:25:39 if they if that's what they want to do.

0:25:41 I mean,

0:25:42 Jesus said that he cut off the vine

0:25:46 when it didn't produce.

0:25:48 OK,

0:25:48 so how can a man and a man produce and

0:25:52 why?

0:25:52 Why do you get married?

0:25:54 you get married to procreate, right?

0:25:56 And it says in the Bible

0:25:58 that children are arrows

0:26:01 and they're gifts from God.

0:26:03 So they're trying to recreate humanity.

0:26:07 That's just my opinion of it.

0:26:09 But I'm not saying if

0:26:11 they're right or wrong,

0:26:12 they have a constitutional

0:26:13 right to do what they want.

0:26:15 I'm just concerned about the

0:26:16 children who are brought into these

0:26:19 marriage, supposedly marriages,

0:26:22 and that aren't really marriages.

0:26:24 So.

0:26:24 Okay.

0:26:28 Chrissy?

0:26:29 Yeah, I mean, you know, here's the thing.

0:26:31 They're utilizing the problem.

0:26:33 The only problem I have is

0:26:34 this is an extension of CPS.

0:26:37 So, you know,

0:26:38 when it comes to child

0:26:39 protective services,

0:26:39 because they cannot have

0:26:41 children on their own,

0:26:43 they then want to weaponize

0:26:44 CPS against parents like

0:26:46 Megan and many other

0:26:48 parents to be able to give children.

0:26:51 the same sex couples,

0:26:52 the same rights to have children.

0:26:54 Well,

0:26:54 they don't have the same rights to

0:26:55 have children because they

0:26:56 cannot have children.

0:26:58 So therefore they need to

0:26:59 get children from somewhere.

0:27:00 And listen, I have friends that have,

0:27:02 you know, that are gay,

0:27:02 that have adopted children.

0:27:04 They're very lovely parents.

0:27:06 They're great parents.

0:27:07 They're basically two dads

0:27:08 with two daughters.

0:27:09 They do not raise the daughters to be men.

0:27:11 Matter of fact, they're very,

0:27:13 they raised them to be very

0:27:14 feminine and they treat

0:27:15 them like little princesses.

0:27:16 Okay.

0:27:17 So there are situations where

0:27:19 You know,

0:27:19 adoptions to to gay people are good,

0:27:23 you know, so, you know,

0:27:25 I'm not trying to intervene on them.

0:27:28 And all of my gay friends

0:27:29 and many of them say, you know,

0:27:30 straight people made gay people.

0:27:32 So it actually starts with

0:27:34 the straight people.

0:27:37 Our next story is breaking news.

0:27:39 The guilty verdicts in the

0:27:40 oath keeper seditious.

0:27:42 I spelled it wrong.

0:27:43 That should be a D instead

0:27:45 of a C. Seditious.

0:27:47 Oh, I just messed it up.

0:27:48 Whatever.

0:27:49 Conspiracy trial.

0:27:50 And I'm going to play a little bit of it.

0:27:52 And he'd do great.

0:28:09 Digital investigative

0:28:10 reporter Jordan Fisher has

0:28:11 been following this trial every day.

0:28:12 He joins us now live from the D.C.

0:28:14 courthouse.

0:28:15 Jordan,

0:28:15 we know Rhodes and Kelly Maggs were

0:28:17 found guilty of that most

0:28:18 significant charge,

0:28:19 which is sedition conspiracy.

0:28:21 We've talked about this

0:28:22 quite a bit with you,

0:28:23 but the co-defendants who

0:28:24 were acquitted are not walking away free.

0:28:29 That's right, Leslie.

0:28:30 All five defendants in this

0:28:31 case were convicted of

0:28:32 obstruction of an official proceeding,

0:28:34 which is in and of itself a

0:28:35 very serious felony.

0:28:37 Now,

0:28:37 the difference between that and

0:28:38 seditious conspiracy is

0:28:40 that that latter charge,

0:28:41 the one Rhodes and Megs were convicted of,

0:28:43 requires you to forcefully

0:28:45 conspire to oppose a law of

0:28:48 the United States.

0:28:48 And in this case,

0:28:49 that's the laws governing

0:28:50 the transfer of presidential power.

0:28:53 However,

0:28:53 even though they were not

0:28:54 convicted of seditious conspiracy,

0:28:55 all five defendants, the other three,

0:28:57 are facing the same base offense level.

0:29:00 Okay, so we have Kelly Meggs,

0:29:01 Stuart Rhodes, Jessica Watkins,

0:29:04 Kenneth Harrelson, and Thomas Caldwell.

0:29:07 I have a video on Stuart Rhodes' family.

0:29:13 And it's from the BBC.

0:29:15 They prepared it awfully

0:29:16 fast or maybe it was already out there.

0:29:17 I'm not sure.

0:29:19 But, you know,

0:29:21 explaining his instability

0:29:25 and what and how they had

0:29:26 to get out of the house

0:29:28 because of his abuse.

0:29:30 They they literally snuck

0:29:32 out of the house to get

0:29:33 away from this guy.

0:29:35 I'm going to call it a crisis actor, Penny,

0:29:38 possibly.

0:29:39 We just need to look out for

0:29:39 crisis actors whenever

0:29:41 they've got things ready to roll.

0:29:44 No, this is, in my estimation,

0:29:47 this BBC thing is absolutely legit.

0:29:51 But, you know,

0:29:52 you'll just have to take a look at it.

0:29:55 It's possible that they had

0:29:56 this recorded a while

0:29:57 because this guy's been in

0:29:58 custody for a while, but I just found it.

0:30:01 And it just aired.

0:30:03 So, you know,

0:30:04 it looks like it took a time

0:30:06 to put this together,

0:30:07 but the family was

0:30:09 literally in fear for their

0:30:11 lives from Stuart Rhodes.

0:30:12 They could all be facing

0:30:13 potentially very significant sentences.

0:30:20 I mean,

0:30:20 my thing is like I have never heard

0:30:22 of anybody as long as I've

0:30:25 been alive getting

0:30:26 convicted of seditious

0:30:27 conspiracy like ever.

0:30:29 And I said trail instead of trial.

0:30:31 I was typing really fast.

0:30:33 That's the reason they're

0:30:34 trying to they're trying to

0:30:36 pass all these case laws so

0:30:38 that they can then what

0:30:39 people don't realize is

0:30:40 they did this in World War Two.

0:30:42 They pass case law to make

0:30:44 laws normal and to try to

0:30:47 get you used to hearing things,

0:30:49 doing things, seeing things,

0:30:51 and then also for other

0:30:52 people to then become

0:30:53 scared of then going

0:30:56 against anything that's out there.

0:30:59 So, you know, that's what they want to do.

0:31:04 The biggest hurdle in this

0:31:05 case for those federal prosecutors,

0:31:07 this appeared to be an

0:31:08 uphill battle for them when

0:31:09 you're talking about seditious conspiracy,

0:31:11 such a charge.

0:31:14 The number one thing we

0:31:15 heard the defense attorneys

0:31:16 hammer on over and over

0:31:17 again is that there was no explicit plan.

0:31:19 There was no written plan to

0:31:21 enter the Capitol.

0:31:22 There was no plan in any of

0:31:24 the text messages or that

0:31:25 any of the witnesses

0:31:26 testified to to forcibly

0:31:29 try to stop Joe Biden from

0:31:31 becoming the president of

0:31:32 the United States.

0:31:33 And so the way that the DOJ

0:31:34 had to make its case here

0:31:35 was by showing all of the

0:31:37 words and all of the calls

0:31:39 to action that Stuart Rhodes had made

0:31:44 ephemeral peripheral

0:31:45 planning that he had been

0:31:46 involved in with regarding the QRF.

0:31:48 That's the quick reaction

0:31:49 force you've heard so much

0:31:50 about with these weapons

0:31:51 that were staged outside of D.C.

0:31:53 and the call to action that

0:31:55 he sent on January six,

0:31:56 calling the rioters patriots,

0:31:58 saying the patriots were

0:31:59 taking things into their own hands.

0:32:01 And that might be why

0:32:02 ultimately these other

0:32:03 three defendants weren't convicted,

0:32:04 because the jury felt that

0:32:05 the DOJ just hadn't shown

0:32:07 enough evidence of what was

0:32:08 in their heads that day.

0:32:10 They showed it for two, apparently.

0:32:12 The jury deliberated for three days.

0:32:14 You were there as the jury

0:32:15 read this verdict.

0:32:17 Jordan, what was your impression?

0:32:21 Yeah, my takeaway,

0:32:22 and I think all of our takeaway,

0:32:23 was that the jury felt that

0:32:25 after teen weeks that they

0:32:26 had done their civic duty,

0:32:28 that they had done what was

0:32:29 required of them.

0:32:30 And, you know, it was time to go home.

0:32:32 They declined to talk to us.

0:32:33 They declined to talk to the

0:32:34 defense attorneys who

0:32:36 obviously were very

0:32:37 interested in talking to them,

0:32:38 not the least of which

0:32:39 because the next group goes

0:32:40 on trial next week.

0:32:42 But I think they were ready

0:32:43 to resume their lives.

0:32:45 Yeah,

0:32:46 you talked about those upcoming cases.

0:32:47 What will this mean for those?

0:32:49 There's a lot of upcoming cases, too.

0:32:51 Are they setting a precedent?

0:32:55 judge beginning with much of

0:32:56 the same evidence and many

0:32:57 of the same charges.

0:32:59 Next month, which is just a few days away,

0:33:01 of course, a group of Proud Boys,

0:33:03 including the former

0:33:04 national chairman Enrique Terrio,

0:33:06 will be getting their own

0:33:07 seditious conspiracy trial.

0:33:08 That'll be different

0:33:09 evidence and different allegations.

0:33:10 But again,

0:33:11 the government is going to have

0:33:12 to prove one more time that

0:33:14 they forcibly conspired to

0:33:16 oppose the transfer of

0:33:18 presidential power.

0:33:19 So all over again, lengthy trial,

0:33:21 lengthy evidence.

0:33:22 What are your thoughts on this, ladies?

0:33:25 I think, Penny,

0:33:26 that they absolutely are

0:33:27 trying to set precedence with this.

0:33:29 They're trying to keep

0:33:30 people from permanently

0:33:32 being able to express their

0:33:35 grievances with the government.

0:33:37 This is an absolute

0:33:38 violation of constitutional rights.

0:33:41 Many of the Proud Boys and

0:33:43 the Oath Keepers,

0:33:45 some of them have actually

0:33:46 been infiltrated by the FBI

0:33:49 that they know that they have.

0:33:50 They've reported it

0:33:51 themselves that they have

0:33:53 been infiltrated.

0:33:55 that they have supported

0:33:58 communities when law

0:33:59 enforcement has not been there,

0:34:01 when law enforcement has been,

0:34:03 police have been defunded.

0:34:05 They have personally gone on

0:34:07 the streets to make sure

0:34:08 that old people are not hit

0:34:10 upside the head,

0:34:11 that people are protected.

0:34:14 They have gone to the

0:34:16 hospital room of the guy,

0:34:18 Christopher Monzon,

0:34:20 that was attacked here.

0:34:21 They have stood outside of

0:34:22 his hospital room door to

0:34:24 make sure that nobody tried to kill him.

0:34:28 So there's many ways and

0:34:29 many things that these guys

0:34:30 do that are really good.

0:34:32 And I stand beside them where…

0:34:35 in terms of I'm not a member of them,

0:34:38 but I stand beside them

0:34:40 because they are human

0:34:41 beings and most of them are

0:34:42 former soldiers and they

0:34:44 have constitutional rights

0:34:45 that are not being protected.

0:34:49 Pamela?

0:34:50 I totally agree.

0:34:53 January six is something

0:34:55 that has been made out to

0:34:57 be something that it's not, okay?

0:35:01 And…

0:35:03 There were many church

0:35:04 groups at the Capitol on January six.

0:35:07 So, you know, many church groups.

0:35:10 Mom, what did people report to you?

0:35:13 I've got listen,

0:35:14 I've got video after video.

0:35:16 And, you know, those of us who were there.

0:35:20 Sadly,

0:35:21 hesitate to say that we were there

0:35:23 because of what happened.

0:35:25 So I was getting text as we

0:35:27 were walking down

0:35:28 Constitution Avenue about

0:35:30 what is going on.

0:35:31 You guys are, you know, this is not right.

0:35:34 You guys are making us embarrassed.

0:35:36 And I'm like, what are you talking about?

0:35:39 And so because of what was

0:35:42 put out on the mainstream media,

0:35:44 that they want you to

0:35:45 believe what happened.

0:35:48 And, you know,

0:35:49 a lot of people have questioned

0:35:50 Did Trump bring us all up

0:35:52 there to set us up?

0:35:54 You know, there was a lot of,

0:35:56 there was a lot of Patriots there.

0:35:58 And I'm telling you, it is not what it was,

0:36:01 what it was shown to be.

0:36:02 Well, don't you have videos of,

0:36:04 of some of the Capitol

0:36:06 police officers out back of

0:36:08 the Capitol laughing?

0:36:10 No, I didn't have a video.

0:36:12 And I'll tell you why I

0:36:13 didn't have a video of that

0:36:14 because our video,

0:36:15 because our phones were shut down.

0:36:18 Okay.

0:36:19 Now.

0:36:19 Wow.

0:36:21 Oh, yeah.

0:36:21 Oh, yes.

0:36:22 Because when we were walking

0:36:24 down Constitution Avenue,

0:36:25 now I had cell phone coverage.

0:36:27 But when we got up to the Capitol,

0:36:30 which I'd walk by at six

0:36:31 thirty in the morning on

0:36:33 the morning of January six,

0:36:35 because I rode up with a

0:36:36 group from Naples, Florida,

0:36:38 a great group of people.

0:36:42 I walked right by the Capitol,

0:36:43 made a beautiful picture of it,

0:36:44 posted on my Facebook.

0:36:46 I mean, it was a beautiful picture of it.

0:36:48 Now I look back on it and think, you know,

0:36:50 maybe not so beautiful,

0:36:52 but when I came back down,

0:36:54 when we walked back down

0:36:56 Constitution Avenue and we heard…

0:36:59 like halfway down there of

0:37:01 what had happened at the

0:37:02 Capitol because most of us

0:37:04 were coming from the

0:37:05 eclipse and it takes a

0:37:06 while to get back to the Capitol.

0:37:08 So when I get back to the

0:37:09 Capitol and I look at the

0:37:14 barricade that I'd walked

0:37:15 by at six thirty in the morning,

0:37:16 I'm like something, it was down.

0:37:19 on the sidewalk and god just

0:37:21 told me don't cross over

0:37:23 that barrier wow not a good

0:37:25 idea not a good idea

0:37:27 because we were hearing um

0:37:29 things go off you know

0:37:31 around us like that i don't

0:37:33 know what it was but anyway

0:37:35 um we were just hanging out

0:37:38 there around like out from

0:37:40 the capitol building

0:37:41 And not knowing what was

0:37:42 happening on the inside,

0:37:44 although it's really funny

0:37:46 that people were texting me

0:37:47 from Georgia and Alabama

0:37:50 and Florida saying,

0:37:51 what's going on up there?

0:37:53 As if we would know, right?

0:37:55 Because our phones were shut down, okay?

0:37:59 So I see this gal that I

0:38:01 just wanted to take a video of.

0:38:03 I wasn't even trying to go

0:38:05 live because we had been

0:38:07 standing at the eclipse since,

0:38:08 like I said,

0:38:09 I walked by the Capitol at

0:38:11 six thirty in the morning.

0:38:12 Now we left the eclipse

0:38:15 after Trump finished his speech around,

0:38:18 what time was it?

0:38:19 It was an hour after he was

0:38:21 supposed to be there.

0:38:22 So there we were standing up in the cold,

0:38:25 And I was talking to a guy

0:38:28 that had driven from Chicago.

0:38:29 It cost him a thousand

0:38:30 dollars to come there.

0:38:31 He was from Germany.

0:38:33 I've got a video of it.

0:38:35 And I think Christie put it

0:38:37 on Patriot's perspective as we did,

0:38:40 because we were all shell

0:38:41 shocked after we figured

0:38:43 out what was happening,

0:38:44 but this was after the fact.

0:38:46 So I'm standing at the Capitol

0:38:49 kind of seeing the activity

0:38:50 that was going on around,

0:38:52 knowing that I wasn't going into that,

0:38:55 you know, didn't know if any of our group,

0:38:57 because there was probably,

0:38:59 I was probably with about

0:39:00 two hundred people.

0:39:01 Now, I know that I know where

0:39:05 I found out later on where

0:39:07 some of them had gone and

0:39:09 some of them were, you know,

0:39:10 some of them were,

0:39:11 but that's for them to handle.

0:39:13 You know what I mean?

0:39:14 But all I was trying to do

0:39:16 was just kind of be an observer.

0:39:19 And I was trying to take a

0:39:20 picture of this gal who was, um,

0:39:23 She was a little Asian gal,

0:39:25 and she had all of her

0:39:27 camera equipment like in a suitcase,

0:39:30 like an old-fashioned kind of suitcase.

0:39:32 But it must have been very

0:39:33 sturdy because she was standing on it,

0:39:35 and she had her camera set

0:39:37 up in front of her.

0:39:38 And so she had the Capitol

0:39:39 was in the back.

0:39:40 And so evidently,

0:39:41 she was able to report what

0:39:44 she was seeing,

0:39:44 but I don't think she was

0:39:45 on cell phone or data or

0:39:48 anything like that.

0:39:49 I'm not sure how she was.

0:39:50 But I thought it was…

0:39:53 kind of interesting that she was, you know,

0:39:55 she was like a one woman show.

0:39:56 She'd set up her own camera.

0:39:58 So I tried to take a video

0:39:59 of her and I can't.

0:40:00 Okay.

0:40:01 With my own, I wasn't trying to go live.

0:40:03 Like I said,

0:40:04 I wasn't even trying to be

0:40:05 online or anything like that.

0:40:07 And so I find out that my

0:40:09 video camera will not work.

0:40:11 And I thought, well, that's strange.

0:40:13 And so then Chris,

0:40:15 the gal that I was kind of

0:40:17 hanging with that day that

0:40:19 I didn't really know, except for,

0:40:20 you know, from being on our trip.

0:40:23 We decided that we needed to

0:40:25 head back to Union Station

0:40:27 while we still had cell phone battery,

0:40:29 because keep in mind,

0:40:30 we had been standing at the

0:40:32 eclipse for hours in the cold.

0:40:35 So then we head back to

0:40:38 Union Station while we had

0:40:39 some kind of GPS and kind

0:40:41 of figuring that we would

0:40:42 follow our own natural

0:40:45 instincts of how we'd come that morning.

0:40:48 And so we see this group of police.

0:40:52 We hear sirens going as

0:40:54 we're headed back to Union Station.

0:40:57 And, you know,

0:40:57 it was like this big chaotic thing.

0:41:00 And you could almost tell

0:41:02 looking back on it that it

0:41:03 was planned because the

0:41:05 Capitol Police that we saw

0:41:08 on a side street as we were

0:41:09 going back to Union Station,

0:41:11 they were getting out of

0:41:12 their car and they were all laughing.

0:41:14 OK, and what they said to each other was,

0:41:18 well,

0:41:18 I don't guess we'll have to wear a

0:41:20 mask for this one, will we?

0:41:22 That was their comments.

0:41:23 And they were all laughing.

0:41:24 Wow.

0:41:25 As they were getting out of

0:41:27 their capital police cars

0:41:30 and going into the capital.

0:41:32 OK,

0:41:32 so they evidently had been called back

0:41:34 because, as you know,

0:41:37 supposedly the police,

0:41:41 National Guard had been offered for this,

0:41:44 right?

0:41:44 Because they knew there was

0:41:45 going to be a lot of people there.

0:41:46 Well, as I understand it,

0:41:48 now this is as I understand it,

0:41:51 Nancy Pelosi turned it down

0:41:53 and she had the authority

0:41:55 because she's the queen of the Capitol,

0:41:57 I guess, you know, and

0:41:59 So so long story short is we

0:42:02 kind of left with a really

0:42:04 odd feeling as we were

0:42:06 going back to Union Station.

0:42:07 And we're still putting this

0:42:09 together because keep in mind,

0:42:11 all these J-Six people are

0:42:12 in the middle of this.

0:42:14 OK,

0:42:15 even though I was kind of on the

0:42:16 outskirts in the middle,

0:42:17 but I was still there.

0:42:19 OK.

0:42:21 So that's, you know,

0:42:23 and I look back on it and, you know,

0:42:25 look at people like Brandon Stratka,

0:42:28 who were not even in the Capitol.

0:42:30 I mean, I highly respect Brandon Stratka.

0:42:34 We went to see him, what,

0:42:35 October of twenty twenty

0:42:37 before the election happened.

0:42:39 He did a debate here with

0:42:41 some other left versus right,

0:42:43 gay and transgender debate

0:42:45 where they were basically

0:42:46 gay and transgender on both sides.

0:42:48 And basically, yeah, I like him, too.

0:42:51 Yeah.

0:42:51 In short, they were doing this.

0:42:53 Their debate was really about, you know,

0:42:56 when we're going back to gay marriage,

0:42:57 you know,

0:42:58 they want the they they both

0:43:00 want the same rights.

0:43:01 But these left versus people

0:43:03 basically want to be able

0:43:04 to show up to work as a

0:43:05 different person every day

0:43:07 and have their employer

0:43:09 identify them as whatever

0:43:10 they're feeling like that day,

0:43:11 whether it be a cat meandering.

0:43:14 Or, you know,

0:43:15 a girl or a guy and they

0:43:17 expect their employer to

0:43:18 adapt to their needs.

0:43:20 And so, I mean, that was actually a really,

0:43:23 believe it or not,

0:43:23 a really big part of the deal and,

0:43:26 you know, murder.

0:43:28 Um, they, the, the,

0:43:30 the gay straight people on the right,

0:43:31 they don't believe in abortion either.

0:43:33 You know,

0:43:34 these people and the majority of

0:43:35 the ones on the right, um, you know,

0:43:38 I will point blank ask

0:43:40 almost every gay and straight person.

0:43:41 I mean, every gay person that I know,

0:43:43 they've mostly been abused in some way,

0:43:46 shape or form.

0:43:46 Okay.

0:43:48 So, and you know,

0:43:49 I'm not saying that every

0:43:50 single one of you, I listen,

0:43:52 I know I have a lot of gay

0:43:53 friends out there.

0:43:53 I'm not saying that you've been abused.

0:43:55 Okay.

0:43:56 Not.

0:43:56 been abused.

0:43:57 I mean,

0:43:57 I'm not saying that every gay

0:43:59 friend that I have has been abused,

0:44:01 but the ones that I have

0:44:02 asked that I felt

0:44:03 comfortable enough to ask,

0:44:06 a lot of them have been

0:44:06 abused and they actually

0:44:08 blame being gay on a straight person.

0:44:13 So that's really what we're dealing with.

0:44:16 We're dealing with some very

0:44:17 evil people who have really

0:44:20 hurt society in a lot of

0:44:22 different ways sadly i mean

0:44:25 the thing about the j-six

0:44:27 prisoners it's it's

0:44:28 egregious what's what's

0:44:30 happening indeed and i i

0:44:31 know that our our guest uh

0:44:33 for tomorrow and for friday

0:44:35 can tell you how they were

0:44:38 treated and what happened

0:44:40 to him um because he he was

0:44:42 actually in in the capital

0:44:45 He was, but Brandon never was.

0:44:48 Brandon never was,

0:44:50 but he still had to wear an

0:44:52 ankle monitor for six months.

0:44:53 Oh, good God.

0:44:55 So your rights are trampled on?

0:44:57 That's crazy.

0:44:58 Yeah.

0:44:59 Yeah.

0:45:00 There was a woman that she

0:45:02 got some some news play

0:45:03 from a friend of mine.

0:45:05 She's in Alaska.

0:45:06 And she and her husband, the FBI,

0:45:09 the same day that they

0:45:10 breached Giuliano's door,

0:45:12 they breached her same time, too.

0:45:14 They came like at six in the

0:45:15 morning and then they came

0:45:16 back twice and they

0:45:18 trampled her door down, arrested her,

0:45:20 cuffed her.

0:45:21 Took her copy of the Constitution,

0:45:23 which that's weird, right?

0:45:24 She had a pocket Constitution.

0:45:26 And asked her where Nancy

0:45:28 Pelosi's laptop was.

0:45:30 And she's like,

0:45:30 I don't know what you're talking about.

0:45:33 She finally got them to show

0:45:35 her a picture of the suspect, which…

0:45:38 She didn't look, I mean,

0:45:39 she looked like her, but you know,

0:45:41 we have ID,

0:45:42 we have digital ID that would

0:45:44 have identified that that was not her.

0:45:46 So what their purpose was in

0:45:48 disrupting her business and

0:45:50 detaining her in handcuffs

0:45:52 and her husband for hours and then,

0:45:54 and breaking her door down

0:45:56 in her business because she

0:45:57 ran a bread and breakfast.

0:46:01 I don't know, you know,

0:46:04 She's a lovely lady.

0:46:06 So she did.

0:46:07 She wasn't even there at the Capitol.

0:46:10 She was at the January six event,

0:46:12 but she was nowhere near the Capitol.

0:46:14 Yeah.

0:46:15 That's where they don't care.

0:46:16 They don't.

0:46:17 I mean,

0:46:17 they're really trying to cause

0:46:20 tyranny with a lot of people.

0:46:23 It's my understanding, mom,

0:46:24 that the person that's the

0:46:25 pastor that's in the prison here in Miami,

0:46:28 Dade, was he at the Capitol?

0:46:32 I don't know.

0:46:34 I don't know about that.

0:46:35 I'm not sure about that.

0:46:38 The reason he is or was in

0:46:41 the federal prison here is

0:46:43 because he was promoting

0:46:49 chlorine dioxide.

0:46:51 Which is,

0:46:51 which has been used for health

0:46:53 reasons for many, many people until,

0:46:56 and it was okay until Trump

0:46:57 came up and then they said

0:47:00 that he was telling everybody to drink,

0:47:02 um, to drink pool water.

0:47:03 Well, now I had a, I had a,

0:47:05 I had a doctor that I won't

0:47:08 say described it to me

0:47:09 because it's the same thing.

0:47:12 I think, um,

0:47:14 Oh, I know the guy that does new Templars.

0:47:18 He's he is promoting the

0:47:20 same product that I took

0:47:23 that my doctor said it's

0:47:24 going to taste like pool water.

0:47:25 Well, it does taste like pool water.

0:47:27 And I've had a pool and I

0:47:29 put the chemicals.

0:47:31 So it, you know,

0:47:33 to some people and we'll

0:47:34 we'll be discussing some of

0:47:36 this other stuff a little

0:47:37 bit later when we when we

0:47:38 start discussing our health.

0:47:41 That is totally natural.

0:47:43 But I mean, you know,

0:47:44 people just blow it all out of water.

0:47:46 But from what I understand,

0:47:48 I don't know about this.

0:47:50 I don't know about the

0:47:51 pastor and his family,

0:47:52 but evidently he was

0:47:53 promoting this chlorine

0:47:55 dioxide to everybody

0:47:56 because and they use it in the military.

0:47:59 Yeah.

0:47:59 In the military.

0:48:01 And I'll tell you,

0:48:01 I lived overseas all my growing up years.

0:48:05 And I moved to Africa when I was seven.

0:48:08 So what do you think?

0:48:09 You're not going to drink

0:48:10 the water that comes out of

0:48:11 the tap in Africa because

0:48:12 there's stuff in it.

0:48:13 It's basically what they

0:48:15 give you in the Dominican

0:48:16 Republic or any third world country.

0:48:17 Yeah.

0:48:19 Yeah.

0:48:21 Yeah.

0:48:21 Not only that,

0:48:22 we had to put tablets in our

0:48:24 water that we got out of certain places.

0:48:26 I mean, you know, for drinking water,

0:48:28 we had different things.

0:48:29 When we lived in Turkey,

0:48:31 we had a filter and the

0:48:32 filter would be cleaned out.

0:48:34 You know, like it was a,

0:48:35 it was a heavy filter and, um,

0:48:38 So the filter would be

0:48:39 cleaned out and it'd be

0:48:40 this green gooey stuff, you know,

0:48:43 that comes out of the, I don't know,

0:48:45 that comes through.

0:48:46 And that's what our drinking water was.

0:48:47 But I know drinking water is, I mean,

0:48:51 I listened to Dr. Artis and he says,

0:48:54 watch the water.

0:48:55 Definitely.

0:48:56 So how else, you know,

0:48:58 think about this and this

0:48:59 is in our health too.

0:49:00 It goes back to your health.

0:49:03 How easy would it be to get

0:49:05 poison to everybody,

0:49:07 especially in the United States,

0:49:09 who are used to turning on

0:49:11 a tap and getting

0:49:14 Right.

0:49:14 That's what the New York

0:49:16 governor was saying.

0:49:16 Drink your tap water.

0:49:19 No, don't ever drink your tap water ever.

0:49:21 Right.

0:49:22 Right.

0:49:22 And some people say don't

0:49:23 even cook with it.

0:49:24 I mean, you know, they put fluoride in it.

0:49:27 And in my, you know, Dennis, to this day,

0:49:31 will defend the whole fluoride thing.

0:49:33 But they've been just like

0:49:35 our medical system.

0:49:37 You know, I'm just going to say this.

0:49:39 This is and these are facts in Miami Day,

0:49:41 December twenty second,

0:49:43 two thousand twenty one.

0:49:45 So almost a year ago,

0:49:48 I was here by myself.

0:49:51 My mom was on her way back from Georgia.

0:49:53 Yep.

0:49:54 Wade was on his way back from Scotland,

0:49:56 Glasgow, Scotland.

0:49:57 They both got here.

0:49:59 They were fine.

0:50:00 I was starting to feel a little bit sick,

0:50:02 like just not feeling so, so well,

0:50:04 just started to know.

0:50:06 Like something was just off,

0:50:08 but I pushed through that day.

0:50:10 The very next day they got back,

0:50:13 I was pretty much sick.

0:50:15 They immediately started to get sick,

0:50:18 as did the majority of

0:50:20 people in our building to

0:50:22 our security people have

0:50:25 said almost everyone here

0:50:27 that lives in this building

0:50:28 had gotten sick.

0:50:29 Well,

0:50:30 the majority of our people that work

0:50:31 here are from Haiti,

0:50:33 so they do not drink the water.

0:50:36 That's interesting.

0:50:39 Yes.

0:50:39 And they were able to come to work.

0:50:41 They have not gotten sick.

0:50:44 So go figure.

0:50:47 Not blaming anything on the

0:50:48 Miami water or anything, you know.

0:50:52 Right.

0:50:52 Well, and the thing about it is this.

0:50:54 They're taking up your guns.

0:50:56 They distribute your water there.

0:50:58 They have blue lights,

0:50:59 these blue lights going on everywhere.

0:51:02 Right.

0:51:03 And the mayor is trying to

0:51:06 privatize bridges.

0:51:08 The city mayor is trying to

0:51:11 get all of your money on

0:51:12 Bitcoin and take away the

0:51:13 very breath that you breathe,

0:51:16 aka carbon dioxide that you release.

0:51:18 How are you supposed to

0:51:19 breathe if you can't

0:51:20 release carbon dioxide?

0:51:21 You're going to become the problem.

0:51:23 Wait a minute.

0:51:23 Wasn't he giving out Bitcoin

0:51:25 to people who took the jab as well?

0:51:27 Yes.

0:51:29 Yes, he was.

0:51:29 Yes,

0:51:29 and an extra ten dollars at McDonald's.

0:51:32 Yes.

0:51:33 Oh, yeah.

0:51:34 Well,

0:51:35 that's a whole nother story that

0:51:37 we'll talk about.

0:51:39 Okay.

0:51:40 So I'm going to play a little bit and, um,

0:51:42 you know, we,

0:51:43 we can go into your health thing.

0:51:45 Um, right after this,

0:51:46 I'm going to play just a little bit of,

0:51:48 uh, this.

0:51:50 Okay.

0:51:50 So I don't know when this came out,

0:51:52 Christy.

0:51:53 I can't, I can't say I just watched it, uh,

0:51:56 last night, but this is actually, um,

0:52:00 the son of what's his name?

0:52:05 Stuart Rhodes.

0:52:06 Okay.

0:52:07 And, and, and the wife of Stuart Rhodes.

0:52:10 So not saying that, you know,

0:52:14 that I'm not defending the

0:52:17 Oath Keepers and I'm not,

0:52:18 I'm not disengaging from them.

0:52:21 I'm just going to play you

0:52:22 what this narrative is.

0:52:24 Okay.

0:52:25 And then you stop me at any time,

0:52:27 both of you.

0:52:27 Okay.

0:52:28 Okay.

0:52:32 January six, we watched that,

0:52:34 I knew he'd be there.

0:52:37 I wasn't sure how much of a

0:52:38 role he would play in it.

0:52:42 I saw some footage of what's

0:52:44 now known as the stack.

0:52:48 I knew immediately before I

0:52:50 zoomed in that that was

0:52:51 Stuart and that was Oath Keepers.

0:52:52 Oath Keepers founder Stuart

0:52:54 Rhodes will stand trial

0:52:55 alongside four other

0:52:57 members of his militia group.

0:52:58 They're the first January

0:53:00 six rioters to face rare,

0:53:02 seditious conspiracy charges.

0:53:04 My name is Tasha Adams,

0:53:06 formerly Tasha Rhodes.

0:53:08 I am the estranged wife of

0:53:11 Elmer Stuart Rhodes,

0:53:12 the leader of Oath Keepers.

0:53:25 And it was just so intolerable.

0:53:27 It was just a dark and

0:53:29 depressing existence.

0:53:34 I feel every bit as

0:53:37 completely ridiculous

0:53:38 wearing this right now as I ever did.

0:53:42 Getting out was one of the hardest things.

0:53:48 And really, up until we got out,

0:53:51 we did not know if we were

0:53:52 all going to get out alive.

0:53:58 I was the last of all the

0:54:00 children to see Stuart for what he was.

0:54:04 I was the last child to

0:54:08 maintain any kind of loyalty.

0:54:10 One of my earliest memories

0:54:13 was I startled Stuart while

0:54:15 I was waking him up and he

0:54:17 snapped upright and drew a

0:54:19 folding knife on me when I was,

0:54:21 I think around four years old.

0:54:24 I grew up absolutely

0:54:25 believing in Stuart's vision.

0:54:32 seeking to institute a new world order.

0:54:36 And Stuart's actions to

0:54:40 selflessly save the country

0:54:41 and stand up for America

0:54:43 and the Constitution made

0:54:44 him a direct target of these people.

0:54:51 So this is a flip side.

0:54:55 Was his only hobby,

0:54:57 his main purpose in life,

0:54:59 and consumed our lives entirely.

0:55:03 We ended up living off of

0:55:06 these survival storage items.

0:55:09 The family lived off of

0:55:12 exclusively oatmeal and

0:55:13 apple chips for months at a

0:55:15 time because that was the

0:55:17 largest amount of bulk stuff that we had.

0:55:20 It's really hard to articulate the despair,

0:55:28 what it feels like to feel helpless.

0:55:32 I am coming to terms with

0:55:35 the full reality that I did

0:55:37 not have a father growing up in practice.

0:55:40 I had one parent and a dangerous obstacle.

0:55:47 Stuart was a disabled veteran.

0:55:49 He had broken his back in the military.

0:55:51 He was talking about

0:55:51 starting an organization

0:55:53 for military veterans, police,

0:55:56 people who had sworn the oath.

0:55:59 in a manic mode.

0:56:00 And he would do that sometimes.

0:56:01 He would sleep for days and

0:56:03 then he would just get

0:56:05 crazy about something and type for days.

0:56:07 A reasonable person would probably say,

0:56:08 well,

0:56:08 I'm going to take my baby and go sit

0:56:10 in the living room somewhere.

0:56:11 But he would get upset if I

0:56:12 tried to do that.

0:56:13 I would have to stay in the room with him.

0:56:15 So I'm trying to get this

0:56:16 poor baby to sleep with

0:56:17 this blasting music.

0:56:18 And he kept saying,

0:56:19 wait till you see what I wrote.

0:56:21 That was the night he typed

0:56:23 up the ten orders we will not obey.

0:56:29 Okay, so let me read these.

0:56:31 Let me go back and read these.

0:56:34 And this is not to discredit

0:56:36 the Oath Keepers.

0:56:38 I just want you to see the

0:56:39 story of this woman and her son,

0:56:42 which it seems to me like

0:56:44 extreme domestic abuse.

0:56:45 But again, I'm not inside the family.

0:56:48 I can't say if this is a

0:56:48 contrived story or not.

0:56:50 And Penny, it could be.

0:56:51 OK,

0:56:52 so let me just say how they work with

0:56:54 these things on propaganda,

0:56:55 because as you're even the BBC.

0:56:58 Yeah, it's the BBC.

0:56:59 They've already got this.

0:57:00 They released this sixteen hours ago.

0:57:02 OK,

0:57:03 explain to to everyone how they release

0:57:06 propaganda.

0:57:07 So we are not citing, as Penny said,

0:57:09 or going with our Oath Keepers.

0:57:12 I don't know these people.

0:57:13 I don't know them,

0:57:14 but I'm just telling the

0:57:15 public what we all have to look out for.

0:57:18 in terms of, is this propaganda?

0:57:21 Exactly.

0:57:22 Are these crisis actors or not?

0:57:24 And I have already pulled up

0:57:26 another article that I want

0:57:28 to share with the public after this,

0:57:29 because it's about an

0:57:31 informant that was this

0:57:32 number two that had already

0:57:34 reported them to the FBI.

0:57:35 So we always find that all

0:57:37 these people who are always

0:57:38 super dramatic have already

0:57:40 been reported to the FBI

0:57:42 months in advance.

0:57:43 So what did the FBI do?

0:57:45 Okay.

0:57:46 Are you saying that that the

0:57:49 the mother and the son were

0:57:51 reported to the FBI?

0:57:53 I'm going to read the article afterwards.

0:57:55 I want people to keep an

0:57:56 open mind because this is

0:57:57 an education today.

0:57:59 It is out in propaganda.

0:58:01 OK, this is a true propaganda.

0:58:04 How we all need to keep a

0:58:06 lookout for propaganda.

0:58:07 Number one,

0:58:08 the first thing that set me off

0:58:09 and maybe calling this propaganda, OK,

0:58:13 possibly being propaganda.

0:58:14 is the amount of time and

0:58:16 how quick these films are

0:58:18 released in relationship to

0:58:21 this guy being prosecuted.

0:58:24 It is the BBC,

0:58:25 which is a propagandist organization.

0:58:28 It is a spy organization, by the way.

0:58:31 Owned by the Queen.

0:58:32 Yeah.

0:58:33 Basically,

0:58:34 it's part of the Queen Regiment.

0:58:36 They're going to produce any

0:58:37 news that they need the

0:58:39 British government to get out.

0:58:41 I mean,

0:58:41 it is a British government

0:58:43 propaganda machine.

0:58:44 The British government also

0:58:45 owns part of our news sources,

0:58:47 CNN and other things.

0:58:49 There's literally five

0:58:50 families that own all of the news.

0:58:52 OK, that's correct.

0:58:53 And I'm seeing these things.

0:58:54 It's to me,

0:58:56 I think it's pretty easy to

0:58:57 spot because all I did is I

0:59:00 went and I searched for the

0:59:03 article and I basically put

0:59:05 in the guy's name and I put

0:59:06 FBI and sure enough,

0:59:07 the FBI was already aware of this guy.

0:59:09 Okay.

0:59:10 So what they do a lot of

0:59:11 times is they bring those

0:59:12 people in and they utilize them.

0:59:15 Like, so in other words,

0:59:15 maybe he was already an extremist.

0:59:17 Why didn't we go ahead and

0:59:19 like stop him before he did

0:59:20 this whole Capitol thing?

0:59:21 Right?

0:59:22 No, no.

0:59:23 Sometimes they equip them

0:59:24 with the tools to help them.

0:59:25 So every single one of these organizations,

0:59:29 they end up,

0:59:30 the FBI has already known

0:59:32 about them months in advance.

0:59:34 And I'm going to prove that after you.

0:59:36 Yes.

0:59:37 Okay.

0:59:37 So I'm going to replay some

0:59:38 of the propositions of the Oath Keepers.

0:59:42 One,

0:59:44 we will not obey orders to disarm the

0:59:46 American people.

0:59:49 Two,

0:59:50 we will not obey orders to conduct

0:59:51 warrantless searches of the

0:59:53 American people.

0:59:54 This was in two thousand nine.

0:59:56 Three,

0:59:56 we will not obey orders to detain

0:59:58 American citizens as

0:59:59 unlawful enemy combatants.

1:00:01 OK,

1:00:02 so let me say what they're also trying

1:00:03 to do here in the in the

1:00:05 minds when it comes to propaganda.

1:00:07 So if they are saying this

1:00:09 guy's prosecuted, he wrote these things.

1:00:12 I think as Americans,

1:00:13 we can probably all agree

1:00:15 that we would not do that

1:00:16 because it's unconstitutional.

1:00:18 That's correct.

1:00:19 And they're good propositions, too.

1:00:22 If you were going to join them,

1:00:23 join something like that,

1:00:24 you would look at those propositions.

1:00:26 And as a normal human being, you would say,

1:00:28 hey, those seem just right.

1:00:30 But now you're not going to

1:00:32 simply because this guy's

1:00:34 already been prosecuted.

1:00:35 Okay.

1:00:36 And they're saying that he's bad.

1:00:39 And basically they're like,

1:00:40 because he made this up,

1:00:42 he's basically reciting

1:00:43 part of the constitution.

1:00:45 Yes.

1:00:46 Okay.

1:00:46 Keep going, Penny.

1:00:47 Sorry.

1:00:47 That's all right.

1:00:49 This is what we're here for.

1:00:50 We're here to look at the

1:00:51 news and examine it,

1:00:54 examine what might be a hit piece,

1:00:56 what might be propagandist, find out,

1:00:59 you know,

1:00:59 the judgments that are going on

1:01:00 in our courts of law,

1:01:02 the news that is mockingbird media.

1:01:06 And this is how how you

1:01:08 actually need to look at the news.

1:01:09 You can't just look at it and say, yeah,

1:01:11 this is right.

1:01:11 This is wrong.

1:01:13 So I'm just presenting.

1:01:14 This is something that I found.

1:01:16 I don't know the validity of

1:01:17 it one way or the other.

1:01:20 So I encourage everyone,

1:01:21 please research and use your discernment.

1:01:23 Stuart Rhodes is the founder

1:01:23 of the Oath Keepers.

1:01:24 Do you guys have the current

1:01:24 firepower to stand up

1:01:25 against the federal government?

1:01:35 OK, so he's here.

1:01:36 He's on hardball with Chris Matthews.

1:01:38 So he wrote that proposition

1:01:40 in two thousand and nine.

1:01:41 He wrote it in two thousand nine.

1:01:43 OK, so he wrote it.

1:01:45 He's obviously known.

1:01:47 He's obviously and look,

1:01:48 he's they've got on the

1:01:50 screen the Patriot movement.

1:01:52 OK, and they've got Patriot in quotes.

1:01:54 OK, and Las Vegas is the background.

1:01:57 Vegas is the background.

1:01:58 Here we go.

1:01:59 And look,

1:01:59 what is behind Las Vegas has the

1:02:01 background, the gold flag.

1:02:04 building.

1:02:05 Right.

1:02:06 I think, what is that?

1:02:08 What is that, Penny?

1:02:09 Do we know who's building that?

1:02:10 I can't tell.

1:02:13 Do you know who's it is?

1:02:14 Yes.

1:02:15 Who's is it?

1:02:16 Keep going.

1:02:16 It's the same building that

1:02:17 the shooting was in.

1:02:18 We can't even make this stuff up, guys.

1:02:22 We can't even make it up.

1:02:24 I'm sorry, what did you say?

1:02:26 Same building that the shooting was in.

1:02:28 Oy vey.

1:02:29 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to look.

1:02:31 I'm just going to reconfirm

1:02:33 because this is how this is.

1:02:35 Honestly, all this is connected.

1:02:38 Yes, it is.

1:02:39 We're talking about shooting power.

1:02:42 I mean, you cannot even make this up.

1:02:42 Yeah.

1:02:45 I mean,

1:02:45 this is where when there is a story,

1:02:49 what I'm even finding, you know,

1:02:52 from one person to another,

1:02:54 everything is linked together.

1:02:56 Yes, everything is linked together.

1:02:59 I used to think that there

1:03:00 were six degrees of separation.

1:03:01 Now I think there's zero.

1:03:02 There's zero, Penny,

1:03:03 because the building that

1:03:05 is directly behind Stewart

1:03:06 Roads in this hardball episode,

1:03:10 and what day did it air?

1:03:11 I think this was two thousand nine,

1:03:12 but I'm not sure.

1:03:13 In two thousand nine

1:03:14 contains Mandalay Bay Hotel,

1:03:17 which is where the Las

1:03:18 Vegas shooting was.

1:03:19 And he is in front of the Las Vegas sign.

1:03:22 By the way, I'm just wondering.

1:03:24 I mean,

1:03:24 I'm just saying you're actually

1:03:26 supposed to actually have a

1:03:28 for this particular episode.

1:03:30 If they utilize the Las Vegas sign,

1:03:32 do you know that they

1:03:33 actually have to have a

1:03:35 permit to video there?

1:03:38 okay so i'm just this is

1:03:39 maybe a backdrop that he's

1:03:40 using because penny it

1:03:42 doesn't matter you have to

1:03:45 have a permit to utilize

1:03:47 that sign in your

1:03:49 advertisements for online

1:03:53 okay everybody this is real

1:03:57 look up las vegas signed um permits

1:04:02 to shoot.

1:04:03 This is a commercial use.

1:04:06 They don't have commercial use.

1:04:08 Okay.

1:04:09 I'm going back to another

1:04:11 shooting that happened in

1:04:12 two thousand and nine to

1:04:14 MSNBC two thousand nine.

1:04:17 Yep.

1:04:17 That's it.

1:04:20 He's an FBI.

1:04:21 I am going to call this out

1:04:22 as absolute propaganda.

1:04:24 This guy is an FBI informant

1:04:26 to try to make people look bad.

1:04:28 He is he is a crisis actor for the FBI.

1:04:32 now getting uh twenty years

1:04:34 of hard time yeah but but

1:04:36 the thing is he won't get

1:04:37 twenty years apart or maybe

1:04:38 he will okay maybe he is a

1:04:40 patsy and he didn't even

1:04:42 realize it you know right a

1:04:44 lot of these people are

1:04:45 patsies they don't even

1:04:46 realize they're patsies

1:04:47 like mom said did trump use

1:04:49 people for patsies and you

1:04:50 know for january six who knows

1:04:53 penny what was what was the

1:04:56 date of this airing because

1:04:57 i'm looking right here it

1:04:58 says n msnbc so we don't

1:05:02 know the exact date okay so

1:05:04 what happened on november

1:05:06 fifth two thousand and nine

1:05:07 does anybody remember that

1:05:09 no remember the fort hood shooting yes

1:05:17 Near Killeen, Texas, Nadal Hassan, a U.S.

1:05:20 Army major and psychiatrist,

1:05:22 fatally shot thirteen

1:05:24 people and injured more

1:05:25 than thirty others.

1:05:26 It was the deadliest mass

1:05:28 shooting on an American military base.

1:05:31 Dang.

1:05:33 I don't have an exact date.

1:05:35 It just says MSNBC in two thousand nine.

1:05:38 Well,

1:05:38 it's really interesting because what

1:05:40 happened to this guy?

1:05:41 It was it was swept under the rug.

1:05:43 I remember I remember who

1:05:44 was president at that time.

1:05:47 You know,

1:05:47 and I was thinking that we had a

1:05:48 right and a left side of

1:05:50 our government back then,

1:05:52 but we don't because we know that the,

1:05:56 we know who put him in power,

1:05:58 who empowered him to be in

1:06:00 power so that people could

1:06:02 go in and shoot up thirty

1:06:04 people on a military base.

1:06:06 I mean, come on, you know, November fifth,

1:06:10 two thousand and nine.

1:06:12 Yes.

1:06:13 Keep in mind.

1:06:15 Excellent.

1:06:16 Excellent, ladies.

1:06:17 That's why I love you.

1:06:19 Here we go.

1:06:20 A little bit further.

1:06:21 Do you guys have the current

1:06:22 firepower to stand up

1:06:24 against the federal

1:06:25 government if you people

1:06:27 are ordered to do those things?

1:06:28 It's the obligation all of

1:06:30 us have who have sworn oath

1:06:31 to support and defend the Constitution.

1:06:33 And so what we're calling on

1:06:34 active duty military and

1:06:35 police to do is to simply

1:06:37 stand down and to refuse to

1:06:39 comply with unlawful orders.

1:06:41 Oath keepers catapulted.

1:06:43 from a draft blog post from

1:06:47 a guy who's on the verge of

1:06:49 being evicted for

1:06:50 non-payment of rent and

1:06:51 whose children don't have

1:06:52 any food to being a national news figure.

1:06:59 So he's in with Fox Infowars.

1:07:13 from a private army.

1:07:18 We stress that our people are military,

1:07:19 current serving,

1:07:19 and law enforcement for a reason.

1:07:25 We stress that our people are military,

1:07:26 current serving, and law enforcement

1:07:43 Part of me was like,

1:07:44 maybe this is a thing that

1:07:45 will fix him because they

1:07:47 kept saying the reason why

1:07:48 he loses his temper,

1:07:49 the reason why he's violent,

1:07:50 the reason why he acts like this.

1:07:53 is because he hadn't found

1:07:54 his path in life.

1:07:55 And I needed to help him

1:07:56 find his path and heal him,

1:07:59 and then he would stop acting like this.

1:08:01 And so part of me thought, well,

1:08:03 maybe this will help fix

1:08:04 whatever it is that's wrong with him.

1:08:06 Horrified as I was by the

1:08:08 coming apocalypse,

1:08:09 the potential of Oath

1:08:10 Keepers to mitigate or prevent this

1:08:15 was a spot of hope for me.

1:08:17 I had a childhood set of body armor.

1:08:21 We sporadically attended

1:08:24 tactical training while

1:08:25 Stuart mocked me from the

1:08:26 sidelines with his copy for

1:08:28 not being a well-drilled minute man.

1:08:39 I feel every bit as

1:08:42 completely ridiculous

1:08:43 wearing this right now as I ever did.

1:08:48 I feel a lot of conflict over these guns.

1:08:51 I have absolutely no idea

1:08:53 whether I like shooting.

1:08:56 or like being a gun nerd

1:08:59 because every experience

1:09:00 that I've had with shooting

1:09:03 or fires-related activity

1:09:04 has been some kind of

1:09:06 steward or oath-keeper

1:09:07 activity and has been

1:09:08 thoroughly unpleasant.

1:09:11 There'd been a gradually

1:09:13 growing awareness that my

1:09:15 home life was not okay,

1:09:18 in particular with Stuart

1:09:22 getting increasingly

1:09:23 unstable when he was at home.

1:09:26 And seeming to regard me as

1:09:28 I got older as a rival male.

1:09:32 I remember this is also scripted.

1:09:36 Like a rival male authority

1:09:39 in the household that had

1:09:40 to constantly be kept in check.

1:09:42 And I also saw how…

1:09:47 especially if the apocalypse

1:09:48 was not actually happening,

1:09:50 then all of this was pointless.

1:09:51 The way we lived was pointless.

1:09:53 Kenny, can you pause for just a second?

1:09:55 Make sure that everybody

1:09:56 realizes here that he keeps

1:10:00 mentioning apocalypse, rival male.

1:10:03 So in other words,

1:10:04 he's trying to really

1:10:07 question people's male hoods in terms.

1:10:11 And he's also trying to make

1:10:13 you think like the

1:10:14 apocalypse is never coming.

1:10:16 You know, like in other words,

1:10:17 his dad's been preparing for it forever.

1:10:19 It's never come.

1:10:20 They've had to eat all this bad food.

1:10:22 And what are what's happening now?

1:10:24 Shores store shelves, excuse me,

1:10:27 are being emptied.

1:10:29 And he's basically making it, you know,

1:10:31 like it's making people

1:10:33 think that if your family

1:10:34 or you have a family member

1:10:35 that's storing up all this food,

1:10:38 then they're crazy.

1:10:40 right i would i would say to

1:10:43 be diligent about this to

1:10:45 not uh flip far to the left

1:10:48 or far to the right find

1:10:50 yourself in the center um

1:10:53 because that's the what

1:10:54 that's what the narrative

1:10:56 wants you to do the

1:10:57 narrative wants you to flip

1:10:59 to one way or the other no

1:11:00 you don't believe it or you

1:11:02 know go uh excuse the

1:11:04 phrase but balls out and

1:11:07 and believe that it that you know we're

1:11:10 in the situation right now.

1:11:11 I personally believe that

1:11:11 we're in revelations

1:11:14 because of the fact that

1:11:16 things are being revealed to us.

1:11:18 Revelations may be not what we think,

1:11:21 but I believe that the veil

1:11:23 of many of the people is

1:11:26 coming down and we're

1:11:28 seeing the evil that's

1:11:30 being perpetrated globally upon everyone.

1:11:33 So this is something that

1:11:35 cannot be denied.

1:11:36 Go ahead and read that.

1:11:37 Oh, yes.

1:11:38 So this is a New York Times

1:11:39 article on Stewart from Yale,

1:11:43 from Yale Law to Oath Keepers.

1:11:45 Stewart Rhodes' unlikely journey.

1:11:47 Jurors are expected to begin

1:11:49 deliberating on Tuesday in

1:11:50 the January six seditious

1:11:52 conspiracy trial of Mr. Rhodes,

1:11:54 who went from an outsider

1:11:56 at Yale Law to founder of militia group.

1:12:01 So this is the New York Times article.

1:12:04 Everybody can go on and read it.

1:12:05 Can you read a little bit of that?

1:12:07 Did he attend Yale Law School?

1:12:10 Yeah, he attended Yale Law.

1:12:12 Yeah.

1:12:13 Looks like he graduated.

1:12:15 He graduated from Yale Law, Penny.

1:12:18 Interesting.

1:12:19 I mean, we're not making this stuff up.

1:12:21 You know what I'm saying?

1:12:22 Yes.

1:12:23 I don't know anything about

1:12:25 the people that are in the Oath Keepers.

1:12:27 Never followed them.

1:12:29 Don't know anything about this individual.

1:12:31 Do you know anything about

1:12:33 Rhodes Scholars?

1:12:34 Yes.

1:12:38 Okay.

1:12:38 That's his last name is Rhodes.

1:12:40 No.

1:12:42 Yeah.

1:12:42 I would like to see his birth certificate.

1:12:44 Okay.

1:12:45 And I would like to see his

1:12:46 children's birth certificates.

1:12:47 Let's see if that's indeed his name.

1:12:49 Let's see if that's indeed his name.

1:12:51 As a married father with young children,

1:12:53 gun enthusiast and former

1:12:54 army paratrooper on a

1:12:56 campus dominated by liberals,

1:12:58 Stuart Rhodes stood out

1:12:59 among the two hundred

1:13:00 students who enrolled at

1:13:01 Yale Law School in two thousand one.

1:13:05 Keep in mind,

1:13:05 he quickly elevated himself

1:13:07 from two thousand one.

1:13:09 He was in Yale Law School.

1:13:10 And then by two thousand nine,

1:13:12 he was on mainstream media.

1:13:14 Still, that's me saying that.

1:13:18 That's me reminding the article.

1:13:20 The New York Times says

1:13:21 still few of his former

1:13:23 classmates should have

1:13:24 anticipated how they're

1:13:25 sharply their past would diverge.

1:13:27 Jurors are expected to begin

1:13:29 deliberating on Tuesday as

1:13:30 whether he committed the

1:13:31 seditious conspiracy in

1:13:33 connection with January six

1:13:34 assault on the Capitol.

1:13:36 We used to joke about it.

1:13:37 Who's going to be president?

1:13:38 Who's going to be on Supreme Court?

1:13:41 Clerk said Gabriel Ramirez.

1:13:43 a lawyer in California and

1:13:45 member of the road of Mr. Rhodes class.

1:13:47 We never asked who was going

1:13:48 to be seditious,

1:13:49 who is going to be the seditionist.

1:13:52 Five years after their law

1:13:54 school graduation, Mr. Rhodes,

1:13:56 whose full name is Elmer Stewart Rhodes,

1:14:00 the third.

1:14:00 So let's go look that up.

1:14:02 Everybody founder of the Oath Keepers,

1:14:04 a far right militia whose

1:14:06 members believe that the

1:14:07 federal government is

1:14:09 poised to strip citizens of their rights.

1:14:13 who vow to disobey of what

1:14:15 they consider unconstitutional orders.

1:14:17 And I actually I actually

1:14:20 concur with that.

1:14:21 But my point being is they

1:14:23 now so they're utilizing this.

1:14:25 So Americans that read this

1:14:27 will now be like, oh,

1:14:29 the Constitution's bad

1:14:30 because this guy wanted to

1:14:33 equip Americans where

1:14:34 they're not utilizing

1:14:36 unconstitutional orders.

1:14:38 Now,

1:14:38 that is not saying let me just say this.

1:14:40 That is not saying that this

1:14:41 guy was not really this way.

1:14:44 OK,

1:14:45 was not really a loose nut wing at home.

1:14:48 Right.

1:14:48 He could have absolutely

1:14:50 been a loose nut wing,

1:14:51 but obviously his

1:14:52 classmates didn't think he

1:14:54 was a seditionist at the time.

1:14:56 OK, so let's call it as it is.

1:14:59 They didn't say really

1:15:01 anything bad about it that

1:15:02 we've read yet.

1:15:03 And I'm sure that if they did,

1:15:04 the New York Times would

1:15:05 have been sure to publish it.

1:15:07 So I'll scan this article, Penny,

1:15:09 as you continue to go through.

1:15:11 But the prosecutors say that Mr. Rhodes,

1:15:13 this is going back to the

1:15:14 New York Times article.

1:15:16 Prosecutors say that Mr.

1:15:17 Rhodes and other members of

1:15:18 the group plotted to storm the U.S.

1:15:20 Capitol on January six,

1:15:21 two thousand twenty one and

1:15:23 prevent the transfer of

1:15:24 power to Donald J. Trump to

1:15:26 Joseph R. Biden.

1:15:28 Mr. Rhodes and ten other

1:15:29 keepers and affiliates are

1:15:31 accused of fraud.

1:15:32 recruiting participants,

1:15:33 organizing training, paramilitary combat,

1:15:38 coordinating travel and logistics,

1:15:40 and bringing weapons to Washington, D.C.

1:15:42 area.

1:15:43 In the days leading up to January six,

1:15:45 five of his associates are on trial now.

1:15:47 There will be trial for many others.

1:15:49 Okay,

1:15:50 so I'm going to tell you what some of

1:15:52 the Proud Boys have told me privately.

1:15:54 Okay.

1:15:55 say any of their names.

1:15:56 They said that people like this guy there,

1:15:59 this is not relating it to him,

1:16:01 but in the proud boys,

1:16:02 the FBI sent people in to

1:16:05 kind of run the show.

1:16:08 Okay.

1:16:08 They thought they were good guys.

1:16:10 They thought they were good people,

1:16:11 but they were the ones

1:16:12 telling them kind of what to do.

1:16:14 Okay.

1:16:15 Because what they've done is

1:16:17 they have taken a guy like Mr. Rhodes and

1:16:21 put him in and said, you know what,

1:16:22 you go in and be in charge,

1:16:25 and he is an actual agent, okay?

1:16:29 And he's supposed to come

1:16:29 back and report to them

1:16:32 what happens and who does what.

1:16:34 So that's infiltration.

1:16:36 Because they have given them

1:16:38 ideas that they did not

1:16:39 have on their own.

1:16:40 So the FBI gave them ideas.

1:16:43 And the next thing you know.

1:16:44 The corrupt FBI.

1:16:46 Yeah,

1:16:46 they've been able to take the entire

1:16:48 group down.

1:16:49 Okay.

1:16:50 Entire group of citizens armed,

1:16:54 ready to defend our citizens locally.

1:16:58 Okay.

1:16:59 All at the same time,

1:17:00 they are defunding the police.

1:17:03 All at the same time,

1:17:05 Miami-Dade has no sheriff,

1:17:07 and our commissioner and

1:17:09 our city or county mayor do

1:17:15 not want to fund a sheriff.

1:17:17 Go figure.

1:17:19 Go figure.

1:17:23 Okay, so we go back to the article.

1:17:24 Mr. Rhodes' trajectory from

1:17:27 a libertarian student to a

1:17:28 Yale defendant facing a

1:17:29 charge that carries a

1:17:30 maximum sentence of twenty

1:17:31 years in prison, plus other charges,

1:17:33 has riveted and unnerved

1:17:36 many of his former peers.

1:17:37 Despite its liberal reputation,

1:17:40 Yale Law School has

1:17:41 produced a number of

1:17:42 notable conservatives, including J.D.

1:17:45 Vance,

1:17:45 the Republican senator from Ohio who

1:17:47 graduated in two thousand thirteen.

1:17:50 Senator Josh Howley,

1:17:52 a Republican from Missouri

1:17:54 who has two years behind Mr. Rhodes.

1:17:57 Also, even in the early years,

1:17:58 Mr. Rhodes was distinctive

1:18:00 presence on campus whose

1:18:01 experience reflected from a

1:18:03 gulf social status and

1:18:04 ideology separating him

1:18:06 from many of his classmates.

1:18:08 Many find ways to

1:18:09 distinguish themselves

1:18:11 either by fitting in or standing out,

1:18:12 said John Michaels,

1:18:13 a professor at the UCLA

1:18:16 School of Law and former classmate.

1:18:18 And my sense of Mr. Rhodes

1:18:20 is he was standing out.

1:18:24 Though one of his lawyers, Mr. Rhodes,

1:18:26 declined an interview to request.

1:18:29 Wait, through one of his lawyers.

1:18:31 He declined to be interviewed.

1:18:33 At Yale,

1:18:34 Mr. Rhodes did not even have his

1:18:36 characteristic goatee eye patch.

1:18:39 He was clean shaven with a prosthetic eye,

1:18:43 the result of a

1:18:43 self-inflicted gun accident.

1:18:45 So they're trying to make it

1:18:46 out like he has a gun

1:18:47 accident and he shot his eye out.

1:18:50 He had an unconventional

1:18:51 opinions and and could seem

1:18:54 unusually focused on gun rights.

1:18:56 Former classmates said still

1:18:58 some remembered him as a

1:18:59 well-maintained peer who

1:19:01 worked to find common ground,

1:19:02 despite of being in the

1:19:04 political minority.

1:19:06 Terrorist attack on September eleventh,

1:19:08 two thousand one during his

1:19:11 second week of law school

1:19:12 had a profound impact on him.

1:19:16 On the witness stand,

1:19:17 Mr. Rhodes recalled being

1:19:18 in tort lecture when news

1:19:21 of the attack spread.

1:19:23 OK,

1:19:23 so evidently he took the stand and is

1:19:26 on trial.

1:19:26 OK, that's unusual, by the way.

1:19:29 Normally you would not do that.

1:19:30 A lot of my fellow students

1:19:31 collapsed and they were

1:19:33 just in heart rendering grief, he said,

1:19:35 adding.

1:19:36 And of course,

1:19:37 after the grief came the anger.

1:19:39 OK,

1:19:39 so I'm going to call a little bit of

1:19:41 propaganda here that the

1:19:43 guy actually took the stand

1:19:46 in his own defense.

1:19:47 OK,

1:19:47 because that does not normally happen

1:19:49 in a court of law.

1:19:50 Most attorneys would say, no, no, no, no.

1:19:53 let like, let's, you don't,

1:19:55 you don't go up for this.

1:19:56 Okay.

1:19:57 You let, let's just,

1:19:58 because they're always

1:19:59 afraid because you open up

1:20:00 a can of worms.

1:20:01 It opens you up to cross

1:20:03 examination to questions

1:20:04 that it opens a door.

1:20:06 It opens a door that most

1:20:07 defense attorneys do not

1:20:09 want opened at all under

1:20:11 any circumstances.

1:20:12 So that alone tells me

1:20:13 they're trying to push a

1:20:14 narrative of nine eleven.

1:20:15 So here we go.

1:20:16 And classmates memories and

1:20:18 Mr. Rhodes own telling the

1:20:21 attacks were galvanizing moment that.

1:20:24 sharpened his political

1:20:25 ideology he grew up

1:20:26 increasingly alarmed by the

1:20:28 expanded uses of

1:20:29 surveillance and detention

1:20:31 by the administration of

1:20:32 george w bush which he saw

1:20:35 as unconstitutional

1:20:36 overreaches because they

1:20:37 were um i'm saying they were for sure

1:20:42 You have the sense that he

1:20:44 was sort of keeping his

1:20:46 power dry for the most part,

1:20:47 said Stephen Vladeck,

1:20:49 a professor of the

1:20:50 University of Texas Law School.

1:20:52 The times he would speak up,

1:20:53 it was often about fears

1:20:55 that the government was

1:20:56 actually going too far and

1:20:58 infringing the rights of Americans.

1:21:00 His professors at Yale

1:21:01 declined to be interviewed,

1:21:03 citing student privacy concerns.

1:21:06 Mr. Rhodes, fifty-seven,

1:21:07 was born in Fresno, California.

1:21:09 His mother was a farm worker

1:21:11 and his father a Marine.

1:21:13 He grew up poor, moved frequently,

1:21:15 and graduated from high

1:21:16 school in Las Vegas.

1:21:18 He served in the Army in the

1:21:19 mid-nineteen eighties,

1:21:20 receiving an honorable

1:21:21 discharge following an

1:21:22 injury in a parachuting accident.

1:21:26 Tasha Adams met Mr. Rhodes

1:21:28 in Las Vegas in the early

1:21:29 nineteen nineties, said he was well read,

1:21:33 fascinated by history and

1:21:34 politics and seemed to

1:21:35 promise a life of adventure.

1:21:37 She quoted Ms.

1:21:40 Adams said they they married

1:21:42 in nineteen ninety four and

1:21:43 in two thousand eighteen.

1:21:45 Mr. Ms.

1:21:45 Adams,

1:21:46 who was involved in the Oath Keepers

1:21:48 initially,

1:21:48 but later decided to distance

1:21:50 herself from the organization,

1:21:51 filed for divorce,

1:21:52 accusing Mr. Rhodes of

1:21:53 physical and emotional abuse.

1:21:55 They remain separated and

1:21:56 the application is pending.

1:21:58 Mr. Rhodes attended the

1:21:59 University of Nevada of Las

1:22:01 Vegas where he studied.

1:22:03 Mr. Rhodes, excuse me,

1:22:04 Mr. Rhodes attended University of Nevada,

1:22:08 UNLV,

1:22:09 where he studied political science

1:22:11 and graduated summa cum

1:22:13 laude in nineteen ninety eight.

1:22:15 After college,

1:22:16 he worked in Washington

1:22:17 office of Representative Ron Paul,

1:22:19 a libertarian minded Republican.

1:22:21 From Texas,

1:22:23 Mr. Rhodes briefly considered

1:22:25 becoming a history teacher,

1:22:26 but grew interested in law

1:22:29 and was accepted at Yale.

1:22:31 On the witness stand,

1:22:32 Mr. Rhodes told the jury

1:22:34 that an admissions officer

1:22:36 at the law school had told

1:22:37 him that she cared about the, quote,

1:22:41 party model.

1:22:43 on a party model, I guess.

1:22:46 If you're going to have an

1:22:46 interesting party and have

1:22:48 an interesting guest,

1:22:50 who would you invite, he said.

1:22:53 So she wanted people like

1:22:54 military veterans, folks from out West,

1:22:57 people with different backgrounds.

1:22:59 Jean Webb,

1:23:00 the director of admissions at

1:23:01 Yale Law School from the

1:23:05 cycle in which Mr. Rhodes was admitted,

1:23:08 said that she did not

1:23:09 remember Mr. Rhodes and

1:23:10 that the party metaphor was

1:23:13 Not the one that she would have used.

1:23:15 So in other words,

1:23:16 she's calling him a liar.

1:23:17 She's saying that that's not

1:23:20 a metaphor she would have used,

1:23:21 even though that's what he

1:23:22 said on the stand.

1:23:23 OK,

1:23:24 so there's another little discrepancy

1:23:26 that, you know, is kind of passed over.

1:23:30 There are no specific

1:23:31 thresholds for acceptance

1:23:33 or standards or diversity, Ms.

1:23:35 Webb said.

1:23:36 Through overtime,

1:23:37 the school developed an

1:23:38 interest in admitting more

1:23:40 first-generation students and veterans.

1:23:43 Above all, she said,

1:23:44 faculty members were looking for, quote,

1:23:48 good thinkers.

1:23:50 She added that the school is

1:23:52 also seeking people who

1:23:54 wanted to be of service to

1:23:55 their community,

1:23:56 to their country and be in

1:23:58 leadership positions.

1:24:00 That's her quote.

1:24:03 So this is what Yale was

1:24:04 looking for at the time for

1:24:06 the admissions officer.

1:24:08 In class, Mr. Rhodes seemed engaged,

1:24:11 but not unusually so,

1:24:14 former classmates said.

1:24:16 Malcolm Seymour, a New York litigator,

1:24:19 a member of Mr. Rhodes' class,

1:24:21 called him as a polite,

1:24:22 intelligent classmate who

1:24:25 often agreed with

1:24:26 left-leaning peers on the

1:24:28 Bush-era civil liberties issues.

1:24:32 He taught self-defense

1:24:33 classes for female students

1:24:35 and was a part of the group

1:24:36 called Yale Law Gunners.

1:24:39 A play on a term denoting students who,

1:24:44 quote, gun for the highest achievements.

1:24:47 He took peers shooting at a local range.

1:24:50 Mr. Rhodes seemed to take

1:24:52 pleasure in teaching

1:24:53 classmates how to shoot a gun.

1:24:55 Ms.

1:24:55 Adams and a former student said.

1:24:59 So Tasha Adams is the estranged wife here.

1:25:05 She's the one in the documentary, correct?

1:25:07 That's correct.

1:25:08 Okay.

1:25:08 So Tasha Adams is the one in

1:25:10 the documentary who

1:25:11 evidently lives in Las Vegas.

1:25:13 And underneath her photo,

1:25:14 it says this is Tasha Adams,

1:25:17 Mr. Rhodes' estranged wife,

1:25:19 was initially involved in

1:25:20 the Oath Keepers,

1:25:21 but later distanced herself

1:25:22 from the organization.

1:25:23 Okay.

1:25:24 Elizabeth Lee Beck,

1:25:26 a Miami litigator and

1:25:28 member of Mr. Rhodes' class,

1:25:30 said that Mr. Rhodes struck

1:25:33 her as tolerant and

1:25:35 open-minded with an

1:25:36 institution that could seem

1:25:38 to her oppressively liberal.

1:25:40 Oh, wow.

1:25:44 I know some people who view

1:25:46 him as a scary Nazi, she said.

1:25:51 I don't share that view.

1:25:53 He's just Ernest Elmer.

1:25:57 At home,

1:25:58 Mr. Rhodes' time in law school was

1:26:01 fraught, Mrs. Adams said.

1:26:03 They arrived in New Haven

1:26:05 with two children and

1:26:06 eventually welcomed a third.

1:26:09 It was a stressful and isolating period,

1:26:11 she said.

1:26:13 He didn't know what to call

1:26:14 his tribe when he was at Yale, she said,

1:26:18 adding that the demands of

1:26:20 the family and school were intense.

1:26:22 She said a lot of times he

1:26:24 would just toss books and say…

1:26:28 quote, I don't have time to read this.

1:26:30 Give this and give me the note.

1:26:32 Read this and give me the notes.

1:26:34 In early two thousands,

1:26:36 Yale Law School could feel

1:26:39 like a protected bubble

1:26:40 where students were, quote,

1:26:42 floating in the world of ideas, unquote,

1:26:46 said Professor Michaels from UCLA.

1:26:50 But for Mr. Rhodes,

1:26:51 there were few abstract issues.

1:26:54 The topics

1:26:56 The topics he became

1:26:58 obsessed with often emerged

1:27:00 out of deep self-interest, Ms.

1:27:03 Adams said.

1:27:04 In his final year,

1:27:05 Mr. Rhodes won a school

1:27:07 prize for paper arguing

1:27:09 that the Bush

1:27:10 administration's designation

1:27:12 of enemy combatants was, quote,

1:27:14 dangerous to our freedoms and way of life,

1:27:18 end quote.

1:27:19 Nearly two decades later,

1:27:21 he told the jury that at

1:27:23 his trial at a big…

1:27:27 that a quote, big impetus, end quote,

1:27:31 for his creation of the Oak

1:27:33 Keepers was quote,

1:27:34 what I had learned during

1:27:36 the Bush years of enemy combatant status,

1:27:40 end quote.

1:27:41 Mr. Rhodes' extremist views

1:27:42 had already begun

1:27:44 in bullets by the time he

1:27:45 had arrived on campus, Ms.

1:27:47 Adams said, but he was always hiding it.

1:27:49 There were times, though,

1:27:51 that they broke jarringly

1:27:53 through the surface.

1:27:55 During one session for a

1:27:57 class on the Bill of Rights,

1:27:58 Mr. Rhodes unexpectedly

1:28:00 began addressing the class

1:28:01 about gun rights and

1:28:02 passing out cartoon

1:28:03 pamphlets from a fringe

1:28:05 organization called Jews

1:28:06 for the Preservation of

1:28:08 Firearms Ownership,

1:28:09 said Scott Hershowitz,

1:28:14 now professor at Michigan Law School,

1:28:16 who was in that class.

1:28:19 Mr. Rhodes told the

1:28:20 classmates he was not a

1:28:21 member of the National Rifle Association.

1:28:24 It was not aggressive enough

1:28:25 in its defense of gun rights and was,

1:28:28 quote, proud to share, end quote,

1:28:30 how much more seriously the

1:28:32 Jewish group took the gun rights,

1:28:34 Professor Hershowitz said.

1:28:37 Oh, wow.

1:28:38 So he's bringing in now we've got,

1:28:39 you know,

1:28:40 Jewish gun rights in question here.

1:28:42 Yes.

1:28:42 You think he he was actually

1:28:44 matriculated and guided to

1:28:47 this position by the

1:28:49 infiltration of the FBI?

1:28:51 Yes, I do.

1:28:52 That's exactly what I was thinking.

1:28:54 Yeah.

1:28:55 I mean, you've just got to read it.

1:28:56 I mean,

1:28:57 they're basically saying in one

1:28:58 sentence that he's against Bush.

1:29:00 So why would he be so pro Trump?

1:29:02 OK, yeah.

1:29:04 They've been trying for years, Chrissy.

1:29:05 They've been trying to get it.

1:29:07 Think about this.

1:29:08 Remember what I just said

1:29:09 about the left and the right?

1:29:11 Because, OK,

1:29:12 so the presidential the

1:29:13 president goes from

1:29:15 Democrat to Republican,

1:29:17 Republican back to Democrat,

1:29:19 from Democrat back to Republican.

1:29:21 You know, think about it,

1:29:23 because they're all on the same side.

1:29:25 Yes, they all have the same mission.

1:29:31 So the back agenda, again, is, of course,

1:29:35 making sure that you

1:29:37 castrate those individuals

1:29:41 who are standing up for our civil rights.

1:29:44 Right.

1:29:44 Yes, that's correct.

1:29:46 That's the back agenda.

1:29:47 Now,

1:29:48 regardless of whether or not his

1:29:51 former wife was subjected to abuse or not,

1:29:57 that would actually,

1:29:58 if you took a person who in

1:30:00 public seems to be very

1:30:02 stable but in private is

1:30:04 not stable and they know

1:30:06 that he has these instabilities, then,

1:30:09 of course,

1:30:09 when it gets taken into the

1:30:11 media and he turns into a patsy,

1:30:14 then it's going to

1:30:15 destabilize that particular

1:30:18 platform and then all who engaged in it.

1:30:22 Yes.

1:30:23 And they set them up.

1:30:24 I mean, whether, you know,

1:30:25 he could have easily been a patsy.

1:30:27 He could have known what he's doing.

1:30:29 I personally think he was

1:30:30 probably a patsy.

1:30:31 They probably took him.

1:30:32 They probably elevated him.

1:30:34 which is really easy.

1:30:35 Because he had a good acumen.

1:30:37 How would he actually be

1:30:38 promoted to join Yale,

1:30:40 which is an Illuminati school,

1:30:42 by the way?

1:30:42 Well, Penny, they do that to any mind.

1:30:46 They said that they were

1:30:47 looking for great minds, basically.

1:30:49 That's correct.

1:30:50 They were looking for great

1:30:50 minds to manipulate.

1:30:51 Yeah, look where his alma mater was.

1:30:53 Where?

1:30:56 UNLV, Las Vegas.

1:30:58 Absolutely.

1:30:59 And the only information I

1:31:01 could find on him when

1:31:02 trying to look him up about

1:31:04 being related to Cecil Rhodes,

1:31:06 which I'm sure they don't

1:31:07 want those names connected.

1:31:09 Is he?

1:31:10 Well, I couldn't find it.

1:31:11 He must be through the name.

1:31:14 Well, possibly very possible.

1:31:16 I mean, I'm not saying blood related.

1:31:18 I'm saying that I studied

1:31:20 the genesis of names.

1:31:21 I'm saying through a clan name,

1:31:23 that is the Rhodes name.

1:31:26 Yes.

1:31:27 And that's why they picked him.

1:31:29 Right.

1:31:29 The only information I could

1:31:31 find is that he was disbarred, disbarred,

1:31:34 disbarred, disbarred.

1:31:36 Yeah.

1:31:36 And you're saying that he

1:31:39 actually did become a lawyer.

1:31:43 Yes.

1:31:43 Yeah.

1:31:43 And then he got disbarred,

1:31:45 but we don't know why.

1:31:47 We'll have to look it up.

1:31:50 But you know what?

1:31:50 Here's an,

1:31:51 here's another thing that you

1:31:52 guys may not know.

1:31:54 And, oh, you might, or you might not know,

1:31:56 but growing up military.

1:31:58 Now I didn't experience this,

1:32:00 but I know people who did.

1:32:02 And it, it concerns the alcoholism,

1:32:06 the domestic abuse.

1:32:08 Yes.

1:32:09 And they could, if they,

1:32:10 if they bring it forward,

1:32:13 It goes against their military service.

1:32:16 So in other words,

1:32:18 these problems are always hidden.

1:32:19 So maybe the boy did

1:32:22 experience these things in youth.

1:32:25 I can say that it was not my experience.

1:32:27 My dad was in for twenty five years.

1:32:31 It's not a normal military experience.

1:32:33 Listen, I know almost every military,

1:32:36 every veteran suffers from PTSD.

1:32:39 So I do believe that they, you know, Penny,

1:32:42 there's so many times that

1:32:44 they've been brainwashed,

1:32:45 they've been siloed.

1:32:47 And, you know, I mean,

1:32:49 one of the one of the

1:32:49 propositions of the Navy is

1:32:51 to out drink your fellow compadres.

1:32:53 Yes.

1:32:54 And they want them to do these things.

1:32:57 Okay.

1:32:58 So I think this article,

1:32:59 I really want to wrap it up

1:33:00 with this because, you know,

1:33:02 we're supposed to be talking about.

1:33:03 Yes.

1:33:04 We got half an hour to talk about health.

1:33:06 Yeah.

1:33:07 Yeah.

1:33:08 And health.

1:33:08 Half an hour to come down

1:33:09 from all this stuff.

1:33:11 Right.

1:33:11 And, you know, and we'll,

1:33:12 we'll be pursuing this because again,

1:33:14 I presented this with actually no effort,

1:33:18 uh,

1:33:19 for knowledge of this

1:33:20 individual i just happened

1:33:22 to stumble upon this thing

1:33:23 it looks like the domestic

1:33:25 uh violence was you know

1:33:27 real but you know what was

1:33:29 the purpose of putting this

1:33:31 person forward as the face

1:33:33 because it's it looks like

1:33:35 they strategized it and

1:33:36 then also at some point

1:33:38 we'll get into alex jones as well

1:33:40 Right.

1:33:40 So this is what I want people to realize.

1:33:42 OK, so this is, you know, you know,

1:33:45 these are these are cues

1:33:46 that we all have to look at.

1:33:48 If you if you look up,

1:33:49 you'll see what I'm talking

1:33:50 about with the Las Vegas

1:33:51 sign that you're actually

1:33:52 supposed to in order to

1:33:53 film in front of the Las

1:33:54 Vegas sign or utilize the Las Vegas sign.

1:33:57 That sign is monumental.

1:33:59 You're supposed to have to

1:34:00 pay the city of Las Vegas rights.

1:34:03 So either somebody paid Las

1:34:04 Vegas for the rights for

1:34:05 them to shoot in front of

1:34:06 that sign or he got by with

1:34:10 it in some way.

1:34:10 So all you have to do is

1:34:11 search for a Las Vegas shooting hotel.

1:34:13 You'll see that it's

1:34:14 Mandalay Bay that's come up.

1:34:17 And the sign is is more

1:34:20 recognized than that sign.

1:34:22 Right.

1:34:22 You know,

1:34:24 if he was there and he lived there.

1:34:25 But I'm just going to say I

1:34:26 never got to go film.

1:34:28 I lived in Las Vegas for six years.

1:34:30 I never got to go film any

1:34:32 of my episodes in front of the sign.

1:34:34 And I actually asked to,

1:34:35 in order to get movies or

1:34:37 anything else filmed in

1:34:38 front of that sign,

1:34:39 unless you were just a

1:34:40 person and things were

1:34:41 being used for what's called personal use,

1:34:43 then you could utilize your

1:34:45 personal use photos.

1:34:47 But the minute you wanted to

1:34:48 use the Las Vegas sign for commercial use,

1:34:51 you actually had to get a special permit.

1:34:54 Right.

1:34:54 So that's all I'm saying.

1:34:56 So there there we go on the shooting.

1:34:58 So that was one of the first

1:34:59 things that I started to notice.

1:35:00 Right.

1:35:01 So that that shooting was in

1:35:03 two thousand seventeen.

1:35:04 So in two thousand nine, they preface it.

1:35:06 Yeah.

1:35:07 So I do.

1:35:08 Well,

1:35:08 that's we have to realize how early

1:35:10 on they start to do things.

1:35:12 So that's.

1:35:14 Here's what I believe they

1:35:15 were really doing.

1:35:16 And this is what people need

1:35:17 to realize is look at this down here.

1:35:20 An image of Mr. Rhodes was

1:35:21 shown on screen during a

1:35:24 house select committee

1:35:25 investigation hearing on

1:35:27 the January six attacks in July.

1:35:30 Okay.

1:35:31 So this is what they were

1:35:33 after because they can

1:35:34 utilize him because he was

1:35:37 most likely part of them.

1:35:40 And listen, we will, some of this,

1:35:42 we will never be able to prove.

1:35:44 No, and never.

1:35:45 And I mean, here, here's the point of,

1:35:48 of what we try to do.

1:35:49 The point is to get you the, the,

1:35:52 the person on the ground to

1:35:55 start researching these

1:35:56 things and then come to

1:35:58 your conclusions through your research.

1:36:00 And don't, you know,

1:36:01 don't jump to defend or

1:36:03 deny on one end or the

1:36:04 other until you've

1:36:06 researched both sides of it.

1:36:08 And then you've come to a

1:36:09 conclusion after that research.

1:36:11 Penny,

1:36:12 I want to show people the way to

1:36:13 research too,

1:36:14 because I feel like we're

1:36:15 always saying this,

1:36:16 but a lot of times we don't

1:36:17 really share how we even research.

1:36:20 And I don't mind sharing

1:36:21 with people how I research

1:36:23 because I want you to

1:36:23 understand how to do it.

1:36:25 So I'll just put in like the name,

1:36:27 Stuart Rhodes Oathkeeper Daughter.

1:36:29 So I was looking to see if, you know,

1:36:31 could I find her daughter really quickly?

1:36:33 But in order to find out his

1:36:34 connections with the FBI,

1:36:36 I just put in Stuart Rhodes, FBI agent.

1:36:40 Okay.

1:36:40 So I imagine we're probably

1:36:42 going to find out that he is an FBI agent,

1:36:46 you know?

1:36:46 So, I mean,

1:36:46 he was definitely connected to

1:36:48 the FBI within two seconds.

1:36:49 I was able to find out.

1:36:51 In order to say that you

1:36:52 need to say an agent of the FBI,

1:36:54 but not paid by the FBI.

1:36:56 Okay.

1:36:57 Exactly.

1:36:58 So, you know, I imagine that if I mean,

1:37:02 this is the first article I came on.

1:37:04 OK, so I mean, yes,

1:37:06 that was the first article.

1:37:07 So it's not really hard to

1:37:09 find these things.

1:37:10 And I want people to

1:37:11 understand how to find it

1:37:13 and don't just believe what

1:37:14 they're saying.

1:37:15 on the news.

1:37:16 Okay.

1:37:17 That's the goal.

1:37:18 You know, don't believe what we're saying.

1:37:19 Don't believe what the news is saying.

1:37:21 Like look for yourself and

1:37:22 not try to show.

1:37:24 And Penny, you do a great job too,

1:37:25 of trying to show people of

1:37:27 what you're talking about.

1:37:28 And I think we're going to

1:37:29 have to hold off on our

1:37:30 Balenciaga because that's, that's a

1:37:32 Oh, yeah,

1:37:32 that's we got plenty of that for

1:37:35 our guest who's coming on

1:37:37 Thursday and Friday.

1:37:38 You know,

1:37:39 he's very prolific documentarism.

1:37:41 And he told me that he's

1:37:43 research on this as well.

1:37:43 he's been doing some

1:37:44 I apologize to everybody.

1:37:46 I know it's the Balenciaga in our city.

1:37:48 We will be, that's our topic for the week.

1:37:50 So we really thought we

1:37:51 would get to it though.

1:37:52 I really did think we would

1:37:53 get to it today because

1:37:55 I've got all the research

1:37:56 on the business of Balenciaga,

1:37:59 the business.

1:38:00 So I'm going to have to

1:38:00 change the title and

1:38:01 description and possibly

1:38:02 the thumbnail of this video.

1:38:04 So I apologize if you're

1:38:04 watching this live.

1:38:07 So, but you know, it was not intentional.

1:38:09 And so now on a happier note

1:38:11 and a healthier note,

1:38:13 what do you have for us?

1:38:17 Well,

1:38:19 So I was asked to share some health tips,

1:38:23 right?

1:38:24 And what do we think of when

1:38:26 we think of health?

1:38:26 Well, the last two years,

1:38:28 we thought about things

1:38:32 that would prevent us from getting sick,

1:38:34 right?

1:38:35 But before this,

1:38:37 I've always kind of been a

1:38:38 little bit of a health nut.

1:38:40 I used to be an aerobics

1:38:41 instructor back in the day.

1:38:44 And the funny part about

1:38:45 being an aerobics

1:38:46 instructor back in the early nineties was

1:38:49 Um, what I would go and after class,

1:38:52 I would go like down to the

1:38:53 mall and eat a Cinnabon.

1:38:54 Of course you did.

1:38:58 So I was, you know,

1:39:00 I was not in the mindset.

1:39:01 I was thinking like other

1:39:03 people think that if you

1:39:05 want to lose weight,

1:39:06 you want to lose weight.

1:39:09 And this seems to be the

1:39:10 most popular thing about

1:39:11 when people think health,

1:39:13 they think weight or they

1:39:14 actually they think I want to lose weight,

1:39:17 but they don't connect it

1:39:18 with the whole health thing.

1:39:20 Right.

1:39:21 And so so yesterday when I

1:39:23 was thinking about this, I'm like,

1:39:25 people don't want to hear

1:39:26 about losing weight.

1:39:27 It's the you know, I mean,

1:39:28 a week ago we were like

1:39:29 making turkey and dressing

1:39:31 and sweet potato souffle and everything.

1:39:33 you know,

1:39:34 pigging out on Thanksgiving and then,

1:39:37 you know, just it's the holiday season,

1:39:40 right?

1:39:40 So here comes the sweets,

1:39:42 here comes the candy, the cookies that,

1:39:45 you know, you name it.

1:39:46 And so I thought, well,

1:39:49 you know it's it's not a

1:39:50 subject that's well

1:39:52 rehearsed but the thing

1:39:53 about it is health is an

1:39:54 ongoing um subject and so

1:39:58 as so yesterday afternoon i

1:40:01 was just i was i told

1:40:02 christy she knows that i

1:40:04 like going down to the pool

1:40:05 and reading like a real

1:40:07 book a paper book i don't

1:40:08 read off of an ipad because

1:40:11 you know we spend so much time

1:40:14 um, you know, on, on, um,

1:40:16 on computers and things like that.

1:40:18 So I read off of the paper book.

1:40:21 And so I was reading a book

1:40:23 called Christmas by our

1:40:24 friend Sheila Holm.

1:40:26 And, and so thinking about, you know,

1:40:28 everybody thinking about

1:40:29 this whole Thanksgiving thing and how the,

1:40:32 how the food might not be so healthy,

1:40:34 or it might be, I don't know, you know,

1:40:36 some people do, but, um,

1:40:39 thinking that people are like, oh my God,

1:40:41 I'm so stressed.

1:40:43 You know, here's Thanksgiving and I've got,

1:40:46 I don't have my Christmas

1:40:47 decorations up yet.

1:40:48 You know, stress, stress, stress, stress,

1:40:50 stress.

1:40:52 So I was going down to the

1:40:53 pool yesterday afternoon

1:40:55 and I started listening to this podcast.

1:40:58 Well, actually it was on Rumble.

1:41:00 This gal I'd never even

1:41:01 listened to before.

1:41:02 And it was about a flight

1:41:04 that she'd taken on American Airlines.

1:41:07 and how she was squished

1:41:09 between two overweight

1:41:11 people and i thought how is

1:41:13 our weight and our health

1:41:15 affecting other people yes

1:41:17 christy's always telling me

1:41:19 she goes you better stay

1:41:20 healthy because i don't

1:41:21 want to have to take care

1:41:22 of you and i'm like look i

1:41:23 might have to take care of you you know

1:41:27 So here's some things that I

1:41:29 thought of as I was watching her.

1:41:32 So this girl, her name is Sydney Watson,

1:41:36 and she's on Rumble.

1:41:39 And here was,

1:41:40 I'm not real technological

1:41:42 like you guys are,

1:41:43 but here's what went viral on Rumble.

1:41:48 post American Airlines

1:41:51 passenger American Airlines

1:41:54 basically had an issue I

1:41:58 listened to that yesterday

1:41:59 she's absolutely hysterical

1:42:01 it was hysterical but it

1:42:03 would not have been funny

1:42:04 if you had been on the

1:42:05 flight now I haven't I used

1:42:06 to fly you know I said I

1:42:08 would go to work for the

1:42:09 airline this has been two

1:42:10 years ago before the whole

1:42:12 you know the coronavirus thing came about

1:42:18 And they started requiring masks.

1:42:20 And then the tyrants were on

1:42:22 the- I'm not talking about the incident.

1:42:24 I'm talking about the individual.

1:42:26 She has an awesome sense of humor.

1:42:28 Yeah,

1:42:28 she does have awesome sense of humor.

1:42:30 But if you would have been

1:42:32 in this situation,

1:42:34 and you think about it-

1:42:34 I've been in this situation.

1:42:35 Let me explain to you.

1:42:36 I've actually been in this situation.

1:42:39 Eighteen hour flight up in

1:42:40 the air on the way to Guangzhou.

1:42:43 where a lady she was so big

1:42:45 and i'm sorry guys listen i

1:42:47 have a lot of family

1:42:48 members that are severely

1:42:50 overweight they're over

1:42:51 three hundred pounds so i'm

1:42:52 not making fun of anybody

1:42:54 i'm not but i have a thing

1:42:55 where i absolutely refuse

1:42:57 to gain more than a certain

1:42:59 amount of weight because

1:43:00 remember what i'm very

1:43:01 fortunate my body can feel

1:43:03 it i start to feel like

1:43:04 really bloated mom can even

1:43:05 tell you i'm like no no i'm

1:43:06 not even like i will i will

1:43:08 do apple cider vinegar i will do anything

1:43:11 before I will gain so much

1:43:13 weight that I cannot fit into my clothes.

1:43:15 And I know a lot of people

1:43:16 struggle with weight.

1:43:19 On the way to China, I got in a seat.

1:43:23 I was in a middle seat,

1:43:25 which I normally don't have,

1:43:26 but I was actually flying

1:43:27 standby because I had a

1:43:29 last minute trip there with

1:43:30 one of my clients.

1:43:32 So, and she's a former flight attendant.

1:43:35 So sometimes you don't get

1:43:36 to choose the seats, okay?

1:43:37 So the lady was actually

1:43:39 supposed to be sitting on

1:43:40 the window seat.

1:43:42 She could not fit at the window seat.

1:43:44 I mean,

1:43:45 this is not a matter of seatbelt

1:43:46 extensions.

1:43:47 I want everybody to understand.

1:43:48 This is not a matter of being this way.

1:43:50 She was so big,

1:43:52 she could not fit between

1:43:54 the armrest and the thing.

1:43:56 So they move her to the aisle, okay?

1:44:00 They move her to the aisle.

1:44:01 I'm still in the middle.

1:44:02 The other girls, you know,

1:44:04 at the window seat,

1:44:05 the one who was supposed to

1:44:06 be on the aisle is actually

1:44:07 at the window seat.

1:44:08 I wake up as we're

1:44:10 approaching the Northern

1:44:12 Lights and I am like,

1:44:13 this lady has sweat all

1:44:16 over me to the point where

1:44:17 I woke up soaking wet.

1:44:20 Wow.

1:44:20 I go back to the flight

1:44:22 attendant and I was like, listen,

1:44:23 I am not a rude person.

1:44:26 I know I'm, you know,

1:44:27 on American Airlines.

1:44:28 I'm on a ticket with my

1:44:30 friend who's a flight attendant.

1:44:32 We're working on her

1:44:33 collection in Guangzhou.

1:44:37 And I know you guys didn't

1:44:38 even have to let me on the flight.

1:44:39 Thank you very much.

1:44:42 But I like, I don't even know what to do.

1:44:44 And that lady looked,

1:44:45 the flight attendant looked

1:44:46 at me and she goes,

1:44:47 she sweat all over you like that.

1:44:49 And I said, yes,

1:44:50 to the point where I would

1:44:51 have probably slept all the way there.

1:44:53 Okay.

1:44:53 I would have probably slept

1:44:55 all the way there,

1:44:55 but she had made me so hot

1:44:57 and so sweaty and so gross that,

1:45:00 that I had to get up and I was,

1:45:02 I was actually just, I was irritated.

1:45:04 I was mad.

1:45:06 And I go back and I'm like,

1:45:07 I don't even know what to

1:45:08 do because I mean, like, you know,

1:45:10 what's the lady going to do?

1:45:11 Saw off part of her fat.

1:45:13 I mean, no, I mean, there's nothing.

1:45:14 What are we going to do here?

1:45:16 So they actually moved me and they,

1:45:19 they told her that the

1:45:21 flight attendant came and

1:45:22 told me that they had

1:45:23 marked her that she will

1:45:24 have to purchase two seats

1:45:26 moving forward.

1:45:29 Well,

1:45:31 Sydney's experience was that she

1:45:35 ended up being part of the Daily Mail,

1:45:37 which is, we know,

1:45:40 some of the people that are

1:45:42 in with the Daily Mail,

1:45:44 if you just go and research that.

1:45:46 And it said,

1:45:47 so they were blaming her for

1:45:50 fat shaming people.

1:45:51 And they said,

1:45:52 American Airlines passenger

1:45:54 claims after being sandwiched,

1:45:57 and they got sandwiched

1:45:58 between two obese people,

1:46:00 and that was in quotes,

1:46:02 for three hours and says,

1:46:04 people who need seatbelt extenders are,

1:46:06 quote, too fat to fly.

1:46:08 But airline says,

1:46:10 our passengers come in all

1:46:11 shapes and sizes.

1:46:13 Well, here's the thing.

1:46:14 Here's the thing.

1:46:15 They do.

1:46:16 Everybody comes in all

1:46:17 weights and sizes and

1:46:18 everybody has a choice.

1:46:20 Listen.

1:46:21 There are ways, and Mom,

1:46:23 hopefully you're going to

1:46:24 go over some of the ways that you have,

1:46:27 but there are ways that we

1:46:28 can all maintain ourselves

1:46:31 and stay healthy,

1:46:31 because especially now during COVID,

1:46:35 it's not good to be unhealthy.

1:46:39 But in terms of the airlines,

1:46:42 I'm going to say that the airlines,

1:46:45 if they do need seat extenders,

1:46:46 guess what?

1:46:47 They also need to buy another seat.

1:46:49 because we don't want to be

1:46:50 sweat off because this lady

1:46:52 had been moved to the aisle.

1:46:53 She couldn't contain her herself,

1:46:56 even with the aisle.

1:46:57 The flight attendants were

1:46:58 not able to pass by.

1:46:59 It is actually dangerous.

1:47:01 I mean, this was actually super dangerous.

1:47:03 Not only was it gross,

1:47:04 but it was dangerous

1:47:06 because come to find out on my flight,

1:47:08 the flight attendants.

1:47:09 Sorry.

1:47:11 So on Sydney's flight,

1:47:13 it turns out that that was

1:47:15 brother and sister.

1:47:16 that one of them was sitting

1:47:18 by the window and one of

1:47:19 them sitting on the aisle

1:47:20 because they knew that they were bigger.

1:47:23 And so

1:47:24 You know,

1:47:24 just pity the poor person that

1:47:26 gets sandwiched in between.

1:47:27 So she asked one of them if

1:47:29 they would change seats.

1:47:31 And the brother says, no,

1:47:33 because I get to sit by my

1:47:35 sister all the time.

1:47:36 That was the response.

1:47:38 So here's what happens.

1:47:41 And here's what happens with

1:47:43 weight gain and all the

1:47:45 things that we're going

1:47:46 through on the news these days.

1:47:48 I mean, good grief.

1:47:50 You know,

1:47:50 we're hit by all kinds of news

1:47:52 and it builds up cortisol.

1:47:53 Now, what is cortisol?

1:47:55 Cortisol is a hormone and

1:47:56 it's a necessary hormone.

1:47:58 And you might recognize it

1:48:00 as more a fight or flight syndrome.

1:48:02 Okay.

1:48:04 And which works in, in emergencies.

1:48:07 Okay.

1:48:08 Or, you know,

1:48:09 like back in the caveman day

1:48:11 where they had to go hunt their food,

1:48:12 you know, they were like running, running,

1:48:14 running, running,

1:48:15 running for a certain period of time.

1:48:18 And then they stop and they

1:48:20 get their prey.

1:48:21 They take it home, they cook it, you know,

1:48:23 whatever else they, however they ate it.

1:48:25 But anyway, they don't stay in that mode,

1:48:28 but we're staying in that mode.

1:48:30 A lot of times we're staying

1:48:31 in that mode and it builds

1:48:32 up unhealthy fat in your body.

1:48:35 And so, twelve years ago,

1:48:38 Well, ten years ago,

1:48:40 I was I was searching for a

1:48:42 healthy lifestyle.

1:48:44 And what I didn't know was

1:48:46 that the what we're missing

1:48:48 a key ingredient,

1:48:49 because a lot of times I'll

1:48:50 talk to people about their

1:48:52 health and their weight and they're like,

1:48:54 oh, you know, I eat really good.

1:48:55 I eat fruits and vegetables

1:48:57 and I eat this and I eat that.

1:48:58 And I said, but do you realize that?

1:49:00 that what we're missing from

1:49:02 our food these days are minerals.

1:49:05 So we're missing minerals.

1:49:06 And so what are minerals

1:49:08 minerals are things like, um, uh,

1:49:11 magnesium, which is a huge thing.

1:49:15 So, and even zinc.

1:49:17 Okay.

1:49:18 So, um,

1:49:20 So we're missing minerals in

1:49:22 our food because what the

1:49:24 food has been adulterated.

1:49:25 Now you've probably heard

1:49:29 things come up lately about food being,

1:49:32 you know,

1:49:32 you're gonna be eat bugs and like it,

1:49:35 or you're gonna,

1:49:35 and I don't mean to agree

1:49:38 with some of these fanatical tyrants,

1:49:41 but some of the bugs might

1:49:42 be more nutritious than

1:49:45 what we're eating.

1:49:47 if you're eating fast food,

1:49:48 if you depend on fast food.

1:49:49 And Penny had mentioned that

1:49:55 like McDonald's, right?

1:49:57 Yes.

1:49:58 And I call it mystery meat.

1:50:00 It is.

1:50:00 You never know what's mixed

1:50:03 in that ground beef.

1:50:04 And honestly,

1:50:05 I was just listening to Dr.

1:50:07 David Martin the other day

1:50:09 about how our food's been adulterated.

1:50:12 And I listened to Dr. Artis

1:50:15 on Dark Outpost,

1:50:16 and he talks about it as well.

1:50:19 So what we're missing in our

1:50:21 foods is minerals.

1:50:22 And it takes, you know, people say, well,

1:50:25 I eat a lot of spinach.

1:50:27 Well, the spinach these days,

1:50:29 it takes like fifteen bowls

1:50:31 of spinach salad to equal

1:50:33 the spinach salad that your

1:50:35 grandmother would have

1:50:35 eaten to get the nutrients out of it.

1:50:38 and people are just you know

1:50:40 you can't eat spinach salad

1:50:41 you can't eat fifteen

1:50:42 spinach salads a day so

1:50:44 what do you do you

1:50:45 supplement okay so so some

1:50:47 of the supplements um that

1:50:49 i found that um that really

1:50:52 uh that we're really

1:50:53 deficient in one of the

1:50:56 main one is magnesium and

1:50:57 that's a huge one so um

1:51:00 here's some of the signs

1:51:02 that you might be magnesium deficient

1:51:05 Do you have muscle tremors and cramps?

1:51:09 Um,

1:51:11 depression, anxiety, bone fractures,

1:51:14 digestion problems, chronic fatigue.

1:51:16 And I'm getting, I'm getting the,

1:51:17 I'm getting the timer down here.

1:51:19 Okay.

1:51:19 So I'm going to go over this

1:51:20 really quickly.

1:51:22 Hypertension, cardiac arrhythmia,

1:51:25 a difficulty breathing has,

1:51:27 has anybody heard about them?

1:51:29 You know, obsessions,

1:51:31 aggressive behavior and

1:51:33 embarrassing thoughts.

1:51:35 So

1:51:38 With magnesium deficiency,

1:51:41 there comes a whole

1:51:42 plethora of health problems

1:51:45 like minor memory loss,

1:51:47 gastrointestinal problems,

1:51:49 increased anxiety, decreased immunity,

1:51:52 headaches, eye twitching, reduced energy.

1:51:55 I mean, I can't even say,

1:51:56 and most people only take

1:51:57 magnesium if they're constipated, okay?

1:52:02 So let's just say that I'm

1:52:03 gonna give you some solutions

1:52:06 for getting more magnesium in your body.

1:52:08 You can,

1:52:09 you can do a magnesium tea at night.

1:52:12 I do it through capsules

1:52:14 because my company provides capsules,

1:52:17 but they provide it as a part of a,

1:52:19 as part of a weight loss.

1:52:20 And people think, well, I don't have,

1:52:22 you know,

1:52:24 constipation problems,

1:52:26 so I'm not going to take magnesium.

1:52:27 Well,

1:52:27 that's not the only time you need to

1:52:29 take it.

1:52:29 So I'm going to just give

1:52:31 you a few solutions here as

1:52:32 we're winding down on time.

1:52:34 I say that we're winding down on time.

1:52:37 There's a way that you can,

1:52:39 if you're experiencing some

1:52:40 of these things, other than, you know,

1:52:44 just things that you can do

1:52:45 without any cost,

1:52:46 I'm going to just show you

1:52:47 a quick breathing technique.

1:53:01 Just breathe deeply.

1:53:02 Close one nostril.

1:53:04 Use your thumb and your

1:53:05 forefinger and just do that.

1:53:07 Do that for a couple of

1:53:08 minutes and you're going to

1:53:09 find yourself calming down.

1:53:11 OK, another thing is Epsom salt baths.

1:53:16 And that's that's helping you.

1:53:20 Yes.

1:53:21 Oh, yes.

1:53:21 Yeah.

1:53:22 You're increasing oxygen.

1:53:23 You're increasing your lung capacity.

1:53:25 So, you know, think about this.

1:53:28 Think about doing like Epsom salt baths.

1:53:31 You can even go to like Home

1:53:33 Depot or Costco.

1:53:35 I bought big bags of baking soda.

1:53:38 You can do put like two cups

1:53:40 of baking soda and

1:53:45 Did you take me out?

1:53:46 Dr. Randy Shannon says,

1:53:48 soak in that bathtub till

1:53:49 you look like a raisin.

1:53:50 Okay.

1:53:51 So you're soaking in

1:53:52 magnesium with Epsom salts

1:53:55 and the baking soda is

1:53:58 really good for detoxing.

1:53:59 So reflexology and therapeutic massage.

1:54:03 I totally believe in that for your health.

1:54:05 So any questions?

1:54:08 No, that was marvelous.

1:54:10 And those are things I suggest, too,

1:54:11 for people that are MKUltra.

1:54:14 And also,

1:54:15 I suggest that you take a bath

1:54:17 with epsom salts and a

1:54:19 little bit of coconut oil.

1:54:21 It also gets out nanites,

1:54:22 believe it or not.

1:54:23 Yes, it does.

1:54:24 And then also something about the water,

1:54:26 salt water that enables from myself.

1:54:30 It's just when I'm praying,

1:54:32 it's like more of a conduit.

1:54:34 And I noticed that when I

1:54:35 was a child being in the

1:54:37 salt water in the ocean.

1:54:39 It's right.

1:54:40 And that's what she says.

1:54:42 And because there's ions

1:54:44 that come off of the water

1:54:46 as it rolls into the shore.

1:54:48 Now, when I lived in Scotland,

1:54:50 a lot of people,

1:54:50 our gym was kind of like

1:54:52 you could see the sea.

1:54:54 You know, you could see the sea.

1:54:55 And a lot of people don't

1:54:56 swim in Scotland.

1:54:57 Very few people do.

1:54:59 You know, they sail, do a lot of sailing.

1:55:01 You know, there's a lot of water.

1:55:03 But I would walk to the gym.

1:55:05 But there were other people

1:55:06 that would drive to the gym

1:55:08 and get on the treadmill

1:55:12 and walk and just look at the ocean,

1:55:13 but they didn't get the

1:55:14 benefits of the ions from the ocean.

1:55:20 Absolutely.

1:55:20 So where can people find you?

1:55:23 MiamiFreedomFood.com.

1:55:26 is a good place to look.

1:55:28 I'm happy to help you out

1:55:29 with any supplements.

1:55:30 I've been with this company

1:55:32 for over ten years now and

1:55:34 I'm very happy with my results.

1:55:36 And I think you're always on Facebook too,

1:55:38 right?

1:55:39 I'm on Facebook as Pamela Davis-Rees.

1:55:40 Okay, perfect.

1:55:41 Well,

1:55:44 I want to thank everybody for coming

1:55:45 today.

1:55:46 And Penny,

1:55:47 you got some closing remarks and

1:55:49 what's coming up for tomorrow?

1:55:51 Yes,

1:55:51 I'm just going to say that we're going

1:55:53 to continue.

1:55:53 You don't actually need to

1:55:54 take what's behind the

1:55:55 Balenciaga saga down,

1:55:57 but I want to let people

1:55:58 know we will be continuing

1:56:00 with our research.

1:56:01 We'll be bringing in

1:56:02 Nick Alvier,

1:56:04 and he is a documentarian and he has,

1:56:07 you know, over fifty,

1:56:09 sixty documentaries on the deep state CIA,

1:56:14 various factions of conspiracy,

1:56:18 if you will, conspiracy fact.

1:56:19 He leads you to, again,

1:56:21 to research for your own conclusions.

1:56:25 My final closing thoughts

1:56:26 are believe no one and

1:56:28 research everything.

1:56:30 Exactly.

1:56:32 Wow.

1:56:33 Yep.

1:56:33 I agree.

1:56:34 And mom, any closing remarks from you?

1:56:37 Nope.

1:56:38 Just go out and be healthy.

1:56:40 Do something that you like to do today.

1:56:43 And don't be stressed about

1:56:45 any Christmas decorations

1:56:46 you got up because it's not

1:56:47 the hallmark thing that

1:56:48 they've been telling you it is.

1:56:50 No, it's not.

1:56:52 It's actually satanic,

1:56:53 but we're not going to go into that.

1:56:55 No, it is.

1:56:56 You're right.

1:56:57 We're not going to go into that today.

1:56:59 I mean, you know,

1:57:00 we're going to hear all about that.

1:57:01 Another day.

1:57:03 Otherwise, we won't win your Christmas.

1:57:05 We're not here to win your Christmas.

1:57:06 We're going to lose followers.

1:57:08 Yeah, I know, right?

1:57:10 don't kill christmas so we

1:57:11 will see everyone hopefully

1:57:13 again tomorrow that's be

1:57:15 eleven central um my time

1:57:17 twelve eastern standard um

1:57:20 for an for two hours yes

1:57:23 right two hours tomorrow

1:57:25 thank you very much for

1:57:26 aligning that penny and

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1:58:26 Thanks everybody for tuning

1:58:27 in and remember do unto

1:58:29 your neighbors as you would

1:58:30 have them do unto you.

1:58:33 Christy out.

1:58:35 Shepherd out.

1:58:36 Pamela out.