Victor Hill on his prosecution, jury proceedings & criminal justice reform

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1:37 I've got for you. It literally sounds like it's made up. Sounds like it's fresh off of like Lifetime Movies or something, but this is reality, ladies and gentlemen. This is your guest today and our guest on Patriots Perspective. Welcome, former Sheriff Victor Hill, who is now running for US House of Representatives. And wait until you hear why. Victor, welcome to Patriots Perspective. >> Thank you, Chrissy. Thanks for having me. >> Listen, I cannot even believe your story. Um, I was contacted by another veteran. First of all, you're a veteran, sir. Thank you so much for serving our

2:13 country. >> Well, well, a veteran in law enforcement. Now, I come from a military family. My father was in the military, but I wasn't in the military. I wish I wish I would have had a chance to go in the military. That was one of my dreams, too, >> but I joined the police force at 18. >> Oh, wow. So, you were raised by a a veteran and and in the military. So, what was that like? Let's start start a little bit of with your your background and your history. >> Well, my dad is a 23-y year uh Navy. Um

2:44 he's he passed away now, but he had a very interesting um um career. When he when he retired, he was a recruiter. He actually spent five years as a UDT frogman. And that was right during the time before they changed the name to the famous name we all know now, Navy Seals. He fought in the Korean War and the Vietnam War. and um and his special his he was specialized in underwater demolition. So he was one of the frog men that would swim and put a bomb on the ship and blow it up and and it was

3:13 very very exceptional. But they were called frog men before they were called seals as you probably know being a veteran. >> Wow. Yes, that's amazing. Well, you know, actually Victor, I I learned something every time I interview a family member of a veteran or a serviceman like yourself. um because it's almost impossible to keep up with everything that goes on within our military if you know for those of us who um have heard family stories and my grandfather was a veteran um Hammond B. Davis um he actually served JFK um as Army Adese which sometimes now is known

3:48 as CIA um in in the State Department. So he had direct presidential access reported um and decoded all the Morse codes that were coming over like for instance during the Cuban missile crisis. So let's just say we never heard anything from him nothing from his lips. Um he informed my father that he was the one that informed JFK that Fidel was going to be taking over Cuba and um his only comment was we had plenty of time to make a plan. So, you know, whether we did or not, that was my grandfather's point of view was that there was plenty

4:23 of time. He didn't say how much time. Um, but he said we had plenty of time. So, and I can tell you like like you um he did not want me to go into the military. So, you know, there there's something to be said for that. um that when you know people in our family have gone in um you know sometimes they really do not want us to to be a part of maybe something they've seen or done. My grandfather always said we could do more on the outside than we can in which is very

4:55 much why I appreciate your story and you not you speaking out and um you know about your situation because it is um a situation that seems to be plaguing America. Um, so Victor, tell everybody about what what has happened to you, your run for sheriff, um, and then what happened thereafter. >> Okay, sure. Um, so I'm probably a very different type of politician. Let me tell you why. Most sheriffs are born and raised in a county. I wasn't born and raised in Clayton County, Georgia. I'm actually from Charleston, South Carolina. And there's a political class

5:32 out there that most of them they're either already elected or they have groupies and they feel that they decide who the next person is to take elected office if you're not in that particular group or whatever. You know, I actually had a former commissioner tell me when I first ran for sheriff, uh, we'll decide who the next uh sheriff is going to be. And he was trying to talk me out of it. Exactly. So, and and we see that that's not uncommon. That's not just something in Clayton County. We see that locally, state, and national politics. It's like,

6:01 where did you come from? You know, you wasn't a part of the plan. So, when I ran for sheriff, it was probably a big deal in that county. Um, I'm the first African-American sheriff of that county. Um, I don't I don't I don't take pride in being the first African-American sheriff, which is cool, but I I take pride in being the best sheriff that the county has ever had. And I think by me being elected four times, uh, that proves that. But let me get straight to the point. When I ran for sheriff, I removed the old regime. That was a big

6:36 controversial issue in itself. Uh, this story may sound familiar to you cuz it it predated what we saw happen on a national level, but after my first term, I lost. And it was a very questionable loss. And I actually made a phone call to inquire about numbers because it didn't fit the polling and stuff we had. Uh it was a miracle nobody indicted me for making that phone call. Well, I decided to come back and run for office again. And I think they pretty much knew I was going to win because I barely lost that. Very questionable. And the crime

7:11 skyrocketed in the county in my absence. Well, ironically, after I announced I'm running for reelection, a special purpose grand jury is put in place to investigate my term when I was sheriff. Well, uh, after a few months, next thing you look, I'm indicted on a 30 uh, 27 count RICO charge indictment. So, now it looks like I'm the John Gotti of the county because RICO is really designed for the mob. But we have prosecutors, especially here in Georgia, that they love doing interesting things with the RICO uh to make it apply to anything they want apply to, even though it's

7:48 really designed for organized crime. Well, what a lot of people didn't realize is what were the RICO charges? This RICO charge actually alleged that I stole my police car when I was sheriff. Now, think about it. This is four years later. They said when he was sheriff, he stole the police car five times. The same police car, my assigned car. said that would have meant I had to sto steal the car, bring it back to myself, steal the car, bring it back to myself. It was ridiculous. And then every time I put gas in it, they put it as a as a

8:16 predicate crime to that. And then they came up with, okay, he's using the sheriff's office as a as a as a criminal enterprise. If what they were saying was true, it was ridiculous. The cost of using the car was up to was was $2,000 or less dollars. But the amount of money they spent prosecuting it was amazing. And not only did they prosecute me and and put the grand jury out there, we found out through discovery, which I knew it was going on, but I couldn't prove it or I could only say it, but I knew it was going on, that

8:50 they had a whole surveillance team following me and we could see the logs of everywhere they followed me. Now, think about it. I'm out of office three years later. if you think that I was a corrupt sheriff, why would you be following me three years later? >> And of course, we had witnesses that came forward and it it was a plot between with the D and the sheriff because they ran his political uh uh on a political slate, for lack of a better term, and and it was said, "Hey, find see what you can find on him. Find

9:21 anything on him. Your job is just to find something on him." So anyway, I win reelection. I beat the case in court and I lower the crime and life goes on. Well, the same group of people come up a decade or more later with the case that I was falsely convicted on. And again, connected to a political campaign. Uh there was a deputy that I fired that was uh stealing guns from the sheriff's office. uh his wife ran a local scam with like she had a magazine. Both of them are friends with the DA. Well, they recruit a guy to work on

10:05 their campaign who's a guy who we've already had numerous problems with, a guy that's already been in a restraint chair at least twice. And he continues to act crazy and has to be put in a restraint chair again. They use that case to get a search warrant to come and look through everyone that's ever been in the restraint chair at the Clayton County Jail. Uh, but they're only interested in when I authorize using it. So, the restraint here was used 630 times by my staff. Out of that 630 times, I'm responsible probably for eight or 10 times. They

10:40 only went to those ones. >> Yes. >> And then indicted me and I became the first the first person in the history of the United States indicted for the use of the restraint chair only. Uh it was so bizarre that even a former prosecutor agreed to get on my case because she said she'd never seen this before. She said, "Usually a person's put in a restraint chair and then they're assaulted or they're tased or beat." >> But for punishment and retaliation. >> I want everybody to see this. >> Okay. So, I want everybody to see what a

11:15 restraint chair is and what the media utilized to help convict you before you were even, you know, at trial. Okay. So, this is a media clip, 8second media clip showing restraint chairs. And Victor, was this particular clip in your jail? >> I have no idea what jail that is. That's what's bizarre. They would play this when they were talking about me being indicted, going to trial. >> Okay. Sorry. >> And as you can see, that's not me. >> I don't fit the description, but what? Keep keep going. >> For hours on end, not because they posed

11:54 a threat, but for punishment and retaliation. Strapped into restraint chairs for hours on end. Not because they posed a threat, but for punishment and retaliation. Strapped into restraint chairs for hours on end. Not because they posed a threat, but for punishment. >> Just for our audience's sake. Is this you, Victor? >> That's not me. >> Is this you, Victor? >> That's not me. I can turn around the back of my head in case in case you want to see the great. >> No, that's okay. Wait, I believe I believe you. I'm sure your hairline is

12:28 different. >> So, why would they play this tape consistently when I did not touch anybody? I did. Even at my sentencing, the judge, who happened to be friends with the DA, whose husband happened to work at the DA's office during the time they came at me for allegedly stealing my uh uh uh police car, and who was friends, Facebook friends with one of the opponents in the sheriff's race running against me at the time all of this is going on. Even that judge said it sentencing usually in cases like this and I quoted my book vigilante sheriff

13:06 the truth about corrupt prosecutors >> which I am in the process of reading and and actually um I've I've I'm not only going to read it myself but I'm also going to listen to your audio book because you yourself did the audio book which I am >> thank you thank you >> unbelievably impressed with. Can let let me actually play a clip of your audio book just so people can see it. Um, and just I'll pull that up while you're talking. I'll I'll find that clip and pull it up, but go ahead. >> Sure. So, even the judge who rigged the

13:38 trial, >> rigged the trial. We'll talk about that. Even she said in sentencing, usually in cases like this, there's assaulted behavior, beating, tasing, uh, whatever. None of which occurred in this case. >> Wow. >> So, they admit the only thing I did was give the order. this person is to be restrained. Some of them, of course, I spoke to and I'm on tape speaking to some of them. One of them I made a tape of me speaking to them uh of this particular person. So, we're talking about people who are beating up 80-year-old women in in in wheelchairs

14:12 and in the uh grocery store, running women off the road, uh threatening officers, threatening me, tearing up their yards. Uh, another one pointing a gun to something. >> So, those were the people that you allowed to be restrained. These these are the people. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right. I just wanted to clarify. >> Exactly. Holding guns in people's head and running in the house when the police pull up and barricading themselves and stuff like that. And, you know, and and and and what's interesting is here's another tactic that the media does. in addition to playing stuff that that

14:50 didn't happen, they'll play just as much of a clip. Like for instance, the guy I'm talking to when he beat up the old woman and I'm asking him, "Why are you in this county?" or whatever. During that conversation, he says, "Don't I have a right to be in the county?" And and I said, "No, not in my county." Now, anyone with common sense would know what I mean. It means you don't have the right to be out here beating up 80-y old women in a wheelchair. Well, of course they they wanted to twist that is and

15:18 make sure that I to make it seem as if I was telling the guy he didn't have constitutional rights. Now, here's something else I want you to pay close attention to. These folks did not come forward and said, "Hey, something happened to me. Hey, I was tortured. I was whatever." They went and found these people and solicited them. >> Wow. >> And got them. And then and then some of them charges were dropped. They were promised money. five of them sued which we're getting ready to uh deal with that civily and that's another interesting part of it and a lot of people need to

15:50 know that lawfare is not just criminal false criminal charges but also civil so it's not like six men walked into the federal building and said my god help me we're injured something happened some of these guys have been out of my jail over a year and next thing you look they get contacted hey were you in the restraint here and then miraculously all six of them out 630 people, all of them urinated on themselves, which we know that's a lot. I can tell you why that is. And all of them were injured, but yet never made a complaint about

16:23 being injured. Never made a complaint about urinating on themselves. Where's the decontamination report? Where's the change of uniform report? Who is it that told you when you need to use a restroom? No. Because it wasn't me. I wasn't there. So, and if the person actually told him, "No, you can't use the restroom." Why wasn't that person indicted? >> Well, my question, Victor, is why didn't they use the actual videos of those people? Um, did the videos not exist or or did they just not choose to the videos of those particular um jail? >> They are there are videos of me uh with

17:05 the folks in the restraint chair, but the problem is they're not exciting. Not unless you want us to say what I said to them is exactly >> right. No, but what I'm saying is I think that's why they did that. Exactly. >> Yeah, but they didn't bother to get the videos of those people. So, in other words, they are available. They could have they could have easily put those people. >> They did show one. >> Okay. >> They did show one. That's the one I'm talking about when I'm talking to the guy that beat the 80-y old woman in a in

17:31 a in a wheelchair cuz she cut in line in front of him. This is this is how this is the type level of violence we're dealing with. And not to mention, he had to be put in a restraint chair again by another deputy while at the jail for striking somebody with a tray. So, we're talking about violent criminals. And we're talking about prosecutors working with violent criminals to come after the sheriff. >> Wow. >> And then they were and it actually worked this time because of what how they rigged the trial. >> Well, and not only that. Okay. So, let

18:04 me ask you a question. Were the the prosecutorial team, were they any of these the same people who tried to prosecute President Trump or let's just say the Chryslies? Um, >> yes. If the judge was the same judge on the Chrisleys, >> the uh prosecutor that prosecuted and Ryan Buchanan who uh resigned the day that the president got inaugur inaugurated or the day before, one of the two are the people who pushed this case and both of them were friends with the local DA >> and that's why she was able to push it through through them. So, absolutely.

18:43 And then you got to understand that that there and I I've been researching it, but remember there's something out there that that Fonnie Willis and D Fton County, which sits next to my county. >> Franny Willis, you're talking about Franny Willis. Okay. So, Clayton County, Clayton County and Fulton County, you guys are just right. >> They sit right next Clayton County, the county I'm a sheriff of, >> right? So, it's right there. We sometimes we we're in and out the county all the time because criminals care nothing about jurisdiction online. So sometimes we chase criminals into

19:20 Atlanta or they chase them in the out county or whatever like that. So anyway, there's something out there about her colluding with with with certain people at the feds in the case with the president. Uh no doubt it would it was probably Buchanan. No doubt. And that's probably why he resigned the minute the president got inaugurated. So we're dealing with the same group of people. >> That's I mean that is it's so absurd to think that you know I always tell people you know we have to have faith. We have to have hope because it is such a small

19:54 group of people. This is not a, you know, they just, you know, they're the ones, you know, when they're accusing you of RICO or they're accusing you of something, a lot of times they are the ones that are doing these very things that they're accusing their enemies of doing, which is direct which is, you know, a a tactic of Mao and directly like out of, you know, a playbook, you know, like a law of war playbook and a law, you know, and we it I mean it's just absurd. It literally sounds like something that ought not be. And you

20:26 know, we do have corrupt prosecutors, corrupt judges. And Victor, I want to take a second and explain how important your role is as a sheriff because as a sheriff, you are technically over an entire subdivision. You do have control even over you're supposed to have control over the prosecutors, right? like the a >> no not over the prosecutors but the sheriff is a chief law enforcer of his county. So there may be other law enforcement agencies there headed by police chiefs who are appointed but the sheriff is a constitutional office >> and he's chosen or elected by the people

21:08 not appointed by an elected official. Most everywhere you go, even even across the the globe, the head of law enforcement is appointed by an elected official. But only in America do the people get to choose who their chief law enforcement officer is in every county. And that holds true with the with the office of sheriff. Interestingly, I did some research and it turns out that you know a lot of with how the sheriffs came over here is we brought common law over when the settlers came over. >> But one of the forefathers had a lot of

21:43 wisdom and he said the sheriff needs to be elected to keep him from the molestations of other politicians which is very interesting and that's very very true. So and it gives a sheriff a lot of power but good power. Let me tell you what I mean by that. when you're elected by the people. I'm no I no longer care what the mayor says. What I care about is that little lady who's calling me saying there's drug deals across the street from my house and I'm going to answer her cuz she's my boss cuz she's who appointed me with her vote.

22:13 >> Yeah. >> As opposed to listening to a mayor who can well be friends with them and don't want me to do anything in that area because he knows their family or something like that. I get to answer directly to the people as opposed to answering to other elected officials. And that's what the true power of the sheriff's office is. >> Well, let me ask you a question because uh I I was a big supporter of our sheriff's candidates here, you know, and getting a fair election for our sheriff's candidates in Miami Dade County because we had not had an elected

22:42 sheriff in over 62 years. So, >> yes, that was fascinating >> which was a big deal. So my question to you is the corruptions department. Okay. So corruptions unit currently still resides underneath the AG's office. I was told by some of the sheriff's candidates that they wanted to take the corruption department underneath the wing of the sheriff because they felt like the prosecu prosecutor's office, the AG's office was part of the corruption that had been going on here for so long. So, what is your take on something like that? >> I think they may have a good point, but

23:21 they don't have to take it from them. The sheriff can create any type of unit he wants to. If he decides he wants to go after corruption, he can assign some of his deputies, investigators, and say, "Okay, I need y'all working on corruption, and this is what I need y'all to look look for." So, they don't necessarily have to take that from the AG or anybody else. The sheriff can look into anything he wants to. The problem comes that that I don't think anyone can solve unless you change leaders is the sheriff can find corruption, but the

23:55 problem we have with prosecutors is prosecutors are able to selectively prosecute. So, you could send them a crime and they decide not to prosecute. Now, that's something that we we've got to deal with. Um, in Georgia, they did create an oversight committee for prosecutors to look to start looking into cases where they're not prosecuting. So, we're going to see how they've only been in existence for about a year. Unfortunately, their stuff is not retroactive. But, let's take my case for instance, okay? I was prosecuted for the use of the restraint chair. Uh, well, if you look, there was a county

24:30 before me that was investigated and they're actually using physical force to put people in restraint chair. If you look at any video with me and restraint here, my deputies, the people are just sat there for safety, for preemptive stuff. This county, Gwynette County, was actually beating, slamming. They would rush into a room, grab the person, slam to the ground, slam in the chair. Sometimes they would tase him. No prosecution. >> If you look at Ryan Buchanan after >> after my prosecution, he investigates the Fulton County Jail, which is in Atlanta. with it with Fanny Willis and

25:05 everybody else and said these deputies were tasing and beating people for not getting off the phone. But he said, "But we're going to work with them. We're going to do a consent decree." So here you have me. I haven't assaulted anyone. I've only ordered the use of the restraints here. I'm prosecuted criminally and sent to prison. They are given a consent decree. Hey, change how you're doing things. I know you've been beating people, tasing people, but we're not going to prosecute you. But with you, the sheriff, just for simply ordering the use of the restraint

25:38 here, you're going to be prosecuted and sent to prison. And that's where we see a lot of corruption with prosecutors. Okay. Well, if you're going to prosecute me for that, why wouldn't you prosecute these people that actually assaulting inmates? Let's take it a step further. in my county, in my jail after my suspension, allegedly, and I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I I wasn't there and I wasn't over it at the particular time. Some of my deputies beat a man unconscious in a restraint chair. The county settles the case for $5 million. No prosecution. Who are these deputies?

26:17 So, why is it that it was important to send me to prison and get me out of office for only using a restraint chair, but then you got two deputies that beat a man unconscious and the county concedes it happens? >> Uh, and they settle the case for $5 million. >> And so, you're saying the deputies were never prosecuted? >> Never prosecuted. So, this same DA that took my case and pushed it to the feds >> did not prosecute these particular deputies. So why is it that so they got to be still in law enforcement? I'm not

26:50 even sure who these deputies are. >> Uh and >> so the deputies were never named to the public. Like the public has no idea taxpayer dollars who who did this. >> Absolutely. So you got me my face is all over the news. They're trying to make it a hey this sheriff was strapping people to chairs and torturing them which is not the case. A nurse checked them before they got in a chair. Every 15 minutes an officer had to check them. Then a nurse checks them when they get out of the chair. Uh but these guys

27:20 there was a settlement. Well, why? You'll read about it in the book. The chairman of the county, who is the who is equivalent of being the mayor of the county, wanted to be sheriff. And part of the reason he wanted me out is so he could finally run for sheriff and be sheriff. He was the ex police chief in the county and wanted to be sheriff. And I guess he felt I stole his thunder. Well, he's responsible for that settlement. And what he really wanted to do was say, "See, this guy is costing money. Look at what's happening. Hey,

27:49 you need me." Well, the idiot runs and he still doesn't win. And of course, I I made sure of that by getting out and campaigning, too. But this is the type of lawfare that you see going on. So, was it really about was it was my case really about protecting inmates? You go and find inmates that have been out of jail nearly a year, never made a complaint, and suddenly they become a victim, and they think they're going to get $5 million, too, now based on what he did with these other people. And then those deputies are never

28:23 prosecuted. Why? Who are they? And and not only that, but your taxpayer dollars, if you're in Clayton County, I would be asking these questions. As a matter of fact, I may submit a a records request to request that information to find out who these people are because Clayton County, you need to know who these people are. Um because they could very well be on your payroll. They could very well be on your payroll. I want to show you something just to see. Um we had an issue here in Miami Dade County where we had 17 candidates that were

28:59 running for office. Um and then we had um James Reyes who was our director of um Miami Dade County um police department before you know there was actually a sheriff. Um he shoots his eye out. Okay. He's literally he was he was in um he was actually in I'm I'm going to play a clip for you so you can see exactly um what actually went on because it's it was almost absurd um at what happened right before the sheriff's race. um you know um I I I've been told you know a multitude of things regarding um his head-to-head

29:37 race with our current sheriff but yet she worked for him. Um Rosie Cado Struts actually worked for James um Reyes and then the the sheriff I mean the the director James Reyes was actually in another Florida city. He evidently pulls a gun on his wife. They have a domestic dispute. Law enforcement's called. Evidently, he's drunk. Anyway, they're on the way home. They, you know, they showed all the um police body cam and everything. Um but on the way home from the from, you know, the other city. He's evident way back to Miami. Um he pulls a gun on

30:21 himself and actually shoots and evidently his wife must have swatted the gun to keep him from like you know actually blowing his head off. Well it actually made the bullet go through his eye. So he's now oneeyed um Reyes. Okay. And I'm not saying this to make fun. This is these are facts. This is the truth. >> Right. >> Okay. >> Right. Um, so he was running for sheriff at the time and while he was running for sheriff, so of course he comes out of the race and everything because you know he there's no way to really cover this

30:53 up. But the interesting thing is he is still down as one of um recently and I'm going to show our audience this because I mean there's some things that I just really cannot even believe with my own eyes. So I can understand why people wouldn't believe it. Um the Miami New Times released this article and it contained the top um the top paid Miami Dade County were the highest paid Miami Dade County employees. So the here's a list of the 25 highest paid Miami Date County employees as of July 2025. Keep in mind the incident that I referenced

31:29 earlier happened in 2024. And um on this list we have James Reyes here at number 16 um still making as chief of public safety $360,122. So do you mind just commenting on that? Like what what's your view on something of of that magnitude? I don't want to go in directly to you know every take on somebody who has you know even threatened to harm himself. I mean, I've interviewed other um sheriff's deputies and of course, you know, their take is, you know, very strong, you know, against that, you know, we would be paying anybody um regarding this. And, you

32:13 know, furthermore, for Mr. Reyes's own safety, you know, they he should not have a gun himself. And here we have him still on our payroll at $360,122. >> Is he on a payroll? He's an active law enforceer or is that his retirement? He's active. Okay. Interesting. >> He's evidently he's active. They're saying he's active, sir, as chief of public safety. >> So, it's so interesting you would you would bring this up because I actually got some proposed legislation I would like to see happen when um elected to Congress cuz as you mentioned, I'm running for Congress. So, let me say

32:52 this. There's a difference. And I when I say this, it's not to to uh uh absolve myself, but there's a difference between an accidental shooting and that particular type of shooting. Unfortunately, accidental shootings happen. I've had an accidental shooting before, but an accident or someone trying to kill themselves or trying to hurt somebody else is two different things. Now, one of the major issues that's facing this country right now is mental health. We're seeing a lot go on from mental health. And I actually on my podcast, we did a story about what happens when mental health reaches law

33:32 enforcement and what can be done about it. And what a problem that was a challenge to me when I was a sheriff is we give these people uh when they're hired a mental health screening. But unless they're involved in an officer involved shooting, there's never any mental health check again. And I think that's a fallacy. Now, as a leader, I have ordered people, hey, he needs to go get checked based on things they've done and said on the job, hey, let's get this person checked. But that's something I had to enforce as a leader. But I think

34:08 there need to be something across the board where uh everyone involved in law enforcement needs some type of mental screening. I believe every at least every six months at at the bare minimum. Why? Because of the things that they're exposed to. Like I spent 10 years in homicide. So I saw a lot of carnage during that particular time. A lot of a lot of things undescribable, unspeakable. Well, everybody has different thresholds of how much stress they can take. And what has happened in law enforcement is usually after you get that initial mental health screening, that's it. It

34:45 never it's never revisited. And even if you're involved in something, cuz we had a similar situation when I was with the county police, and this guy actually became chief of police, but it was a situation where he grabbed a shotgun and kind of barricaded himself when he thought he was going to get a divorce. Well, he eventually became the chief of police. Now, I'm not saying that a person that has a mental breakdown can't be in law enforcement, but I think they need to be cleared and screened to make sure that has this problem been resolved

35:15 >> before we continue with that in law enforcement. You see what I'm saying? >> Yeah. So I think I think so I think what you're talking about is is not not and I don't think you're trying to do disease is not to pick on him but I think it's a problem in law enforcement period >> where they need to be screened especially after after something like that because at that point can we put you in more stressful situations or how can you react in a stressful situation if that's how you reacted under stress before? >> Correct. Yes.

35:48 >> Right. And I hope that answers your question. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely it does. And you know and and again this is not to pick on Mr. Reyes because I do believe you know and and many of his fellow officers have come to me as a journalist to say like they were very concerned for him and his mental health. Um they you know have explained in detail the things that they have to go through. um that they are often not given a break at all like when they have to see horrific things like you have just described and it's

36:18 very difficult when you know they've had to see an incident or um they've had to see murder suicides or you know suicides I mean you know one of the things that Miami is somewhat being known for sadly is you know these suicides where people are jumping off of buildings and you know somewhat to become you know absolutely famous. Well, our police department and our police, you know, those are people, you know, our own service providers have to go pick up the pieces of these people's lives, contact their families, and on a daily basis. This is rough. I mean, this is

36:54 absolutely rough on them. And, you know, when it comes to their mental health, they're not you're like you said, they're not getting what they need. And you know, I um I am looking forward to let's actually play your truth and transparency act because I'm very curious as to what is included and and you sent this to me. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm very much looking forward to hearing what's in it. So, we're going to play this really quick. Good afternoon. This is Victor Hill. I'm the former sheriff of Clayton County and I'm now counting for United States

37:25 Congress fifth congressional district. Got a good one for you today. Um, I want to talk about the Truth and News Accountability Act that I want to introduce as your next congressman and why I need your voting for Congress. I want you to pay special attention to the video that's going on right now in my rear. Basically, you see some inmates in restraint here and you see officers walking up to them and tasing them. Now, why am I playing that on this Truth and News Accountability Act? Well, let me tell you why. Um, it is no secret that I

38:00 was charged with violating the rights of inmates, falsely charged with it because I it was alleged that I tortured inmates while they were sitting in a restraint chair. This is the video that the news would play before I ran to trial. Now, here's the problem with this video. That's not my jail. Those aren't my inmates. Matter of fact, I don't even know who they are, what jail that is. I don't even know who those officers are. As you can see, I don't fit the description of anybody in that vehicle in that in that video. So,

38:33 why would the news play a video of inmates being tortured in a restraint chair when in my case that never happened? Even a federal court judge at my sentencing, Judge Ellen Ross, had to admit in most cases like this, people are assaulted, tased, beaten, pepper-sprayed. None of which occurred in this case. Even the woman that rigged my trial, who was friends with my political opponents, had to admit that. So, why would the news play this? Well, I think the answer is simple. They were trying to make sure or push that I get a conviction because

39:15 they know if a video like this is playing that a jury, a potential jury could see it and their minds would already be prejudiced to this. You know, you can read a lot about this in my book, Vigilant Sheriff, the truth about corrupt prosecutors weaponizing the criminal justice system. I write a whole chapter about the press, the prosecutors, and the Robert Ford syndrome. And I think this is a perfect example of it. You know, there are many people who ask me, "Why do you despise the local media? Why do you not like local clowns like Uncle Tom Jones and

39:48 Mark Weiwee with Action 2 News?" If you look at this, you'll see why. And if you look at this, you'll see why in so many circles the media is referred to as fake news. Now remember this act that I'm introducing. It doesn't just protect politicians like me or celebrities. It protects the everyday man. How many people's lives have been destroyed by the media? We could name on and on. Richard Juel right here in Atlanta. Uh the John Benet Ramsay case where their parents were tried and convicted for being murderous for years in the media and it turns out they didn't do it.

40:29 Matter of fact, the wife went to her grave with that guilty verdict on her head, ostracized because of media. So, it's very, very important that you send me to Congress so I can fight this type of injustice. We've already seen what it's like to have leaders in this district who all they think about is funded programs while people are getting raped, robbed, and murdered up to including reporters like Tom Jones that just got carjacked in the fifth congressional district. send me to Congress and let me fight this type of craziness and protect you and everybody from lawfare from unjust

41:03 criminal justice system and let's clean up the homelessness and the mental health and to do that I need your vote and I need your support. Thank you so much Victor Hill County for United States Congress fifth congressional district. Okay, Victor, can you talk a little bit about what you know what the what this um what your act would basically cover and what are some of the things that are that are in it? >> Yes. What the truth and news accountability act would do is it would force the media to be truthful. Now, it won't punish mistakes, honest mistakes.

41:37 But anytime they print something that's not true, then what would have to happen is not only could they be held liable for it, but they would have to come back and retract that at the exact time and the exact length. So, let's say, well, let's use the the John Ben Ramsey case for instance. We saw nothing but media the whole time and everybody was convinced it was apparent. Well, with the Truth for News and Accountability Act, all that media time that they played that these folks were guilty, they would have to play that they're not guilty.

42:13 >> And and and and and why? And that way, the amount of press time that you're given putting out lies on a person and defaming their character, you would have to spend the same amount of time making sure that you undefame them. >> Yeah. That way, And of course they would be liable as well too. There would be other damages as well too. >> Well, one of the things I don't really understand um that that is somewhat shocking I think when you're you know you are the defendant you find yourself in the shoes of being the defendant is

42:47 that the prosecutotorial team is often the one who is pretty much the the attorneys for law enforcement themselves. So then you find, you know, where law enforcement they pretty much have to do what the prosecutors want you to do otherwise you find yourself like in this mix of like where you don't have any protection as a law enforcement officer. So what is that like as a whole and how would that like what can what could you do in the transparency act to actually cover that part as well like in terms of allowing whistleblowers or you

43:23 know >> let me let me tell you the main thing that can fix lawfare >> the main thing that could protect lawfare not just politicians like me celebrities like the Chryslies but the everyday man the reason that they're able to do lawfare is because of our grand jury systems I also have But grand jury reform, you know, grand juries have been abolished everywhere except the United States and Liberia. Liberia rarely uses them. The United Kingdom abolished grand juries in the 1930s. They're like a star chamber. Think about this. You go into a room with 12 people,

43:56 a prosecutor. You're not there if you're the defendant. Your attorneys can't be there. And they can tell them whatever they want to tell them in order to indict you. And that's why you get the maximum. You can indict a ham sandwich. and I would have never been indicted. A whole lot of people would have never gotten indicted if the system didn't work that particular way. So, if we reform the grand jury, meaning that a in order for you to go before a grand jury, you have to be notified, your attorney gets to be present, you're present, and

44:30 you can give the same group of people a defense. you would see all of these prosecutions, false prosecutions and political prosecutions would be eliminated and in that way now solid cases are going before the grand jury. So if that there alone changes that ends lawfare almost right there but there's two little um uh important nuances that help with it too. I got a men's rehea reform act which means woeful intent. Okay, you're prosecuting people that don't have the intent to commit a crime. You see that especially on certain crimes like let's say someone made a

45:06 mistake on on their tax form or something, they get prosecuted. I'm just using that as an example. But let's take my case for instance, maybe give you a good example. My training and my policy clearly shows I can do what I did. We can show yearly training and policy that says a chair can be used preventatively. Okay. So, if I'm following policy and training, where's the willful intent to commit a crime? Because they don't have to show willful intent, they're able to push through and rig people to get convictions. One other thing, but it doesn't really

45:41 have much to do with, but I just want to throw it into is a plea deal reform act. So, think about it. They they could indict anybody. So, now you're indicted on a crime that you didn't have no willful intent or may be innocent of anyway. >> Well, now, hey, here's a plea. take these 10 years or we'll give you 50. Okay, you're basically you're threatening a person that if he exercises his constitutional right to a trial, you're going to punish him. That's wrong. And then we we haven't even probably won't have time to get on this

46:11 show how they can rig trials. There was information I was not allowed to present to the jury that I don't believe that if they heard I would have been convicted. And then and in my case, and we can get to this well too, the jury deliberated for 4 days. Four days. And it was a hold out jury. He was identified before the media. He was called out by the judge twice in front of the media. And the man finally relented and um and and then politics was even brought into how how or why he should be kicked off

46:51 the juror. because the foreman was trying to get him kicked off because he didn't want to convict me based on on on on what he was hearing. And the foreman actually, and here's what gets very interesting, you know, you know, I am a Democrat and u a lot of people, and I need to say this before I get to this, a lot of people have asked me, why are you still a Democrat? Because it was a Democratic prosecutor. It was a Democratic appointed judge, a Democratic appointed US attorney and a Democratic appoint uh elected uh mayor of the

47:24 county that plotted to do this and they're like, "How could you possibly run it as as a Democrat?" And let me just answer that real quick before I tell you what happened there. >> The reason I'm still running as a Democrat is this. Number one, I believe that the best way to change something is from the inside. I believe the Democratic Party needs strong masculine energy. I don't I don't believe that the the the weird Democratic leaders that got elected reflect necessarily Democratic voters. It can't be because I was elected overwhelmingly four times in a

47:57 predominantly Democratic black county and I'm hard on crime. So, I don't think that all Democratic voters are soft on crime and weak and dysfunctional. I think unfortunately we probably got some weak, dysfunctional leaders out there, if that makes sense. >> And I think the best way to fight that is not to necessarily leave the party, but to bring some common sense and strong masculine energy to the Democratic party, which it lacks. And and and that that would be the best way to handle that. So, you know, I just recently did an advertisement saying that, you know, not all Democrats are

48:34 are weak and soft on crime and lack common sense because if that was the case, there's no reason why >> a county like mine would reelect me when they know how strong I was on crime and they loved it. >> I just think we got a hold of some bad leaders. And some of these bad leaders are responsible for lawfare. And lawfare is wrong. If you don't like me, if you don't like the president, you don't vote for us, you don't indict me or indict the president because you're afraid we're going to win re-election. >> You see what I'm saying?

49:07 >> Yes. Political political it's a political retaliation. I mean, and that's that's happening all over the country, >> you know? Absolutely. I mean, we saw it with with Charlie Kirk, who is a political ally of mine, um, who I helped with the President Trump four more years campaign and several other turning point with several others, you know, and because his voice so loud, they just needed to shut it down. You know, no matter what you might believe, there's, you know, obviously a lot of conspiracy theories out there, but that that's what they really want us also focused on is

49:38 the division of party. And I agree with you, Victor, to an extent. They want us divided >> and they also they also want to sneak in your back door. I'm going to say this to Democrats. They want they want people they want you asleep. They want you down so that other people can sneak through your back door. Trust me, the Republican party also has some really bad people inside of it as well. >> No doubt. No doubt. No doubt. I think y'all refer to them as rhinos, right? >> Rhinos. I refer to them as dinos and

50:08 rhinos operating the uni party. But let me tell you this that's so interesting. Um you know I came under some fire over Charlie Kirk because when when it happened I spoke on it and I said that this is a sad day in um America because uh it's an attack on free speech. And interestingly, why I came under attack is I said, you know, you know, I gave my condolences and I said, "Hey, I like Charlie Kirk and I don't care who who doesn't like the fact that I said I liked him." Well, there was a lot of

50:46 backfire from that. Why do you like Charlie Kirk or whatever like that? And you know, I want to talk about that for a second because I did like him and and I've told everybody I'm consistent with that. I like people with balls. I like people who have the strength to say what they believe >> even if I don't agree with it. But the fact that you have the strength to say that I rather know where a man stands even if I don't agree with everything he says than for someone to tell me something and do something completely

51:19 different. And this young man had the strength to do that. And and and did I agree with everything? Well, nobody agrees with everything and there were some things that it was that I did agree with, but I liked his strength and I like the fact that he was willing to go out and debate it and or whatever. Well, what was interesting is I came under fire because I'm running in a very Democratic district for the United States Congress and a a a a very liberal district. So, it's going to be an interesting experiment. The polls look

51:51 great, but it's gonna be a very very interesting experiment in a way because I believe that the voters of the district have common sense. I believe that I, you know, we may be represented by some folks that that are kind of strange that I don't believe that voters there's no way that I'm going to believe that anyone thinks that it's appropriate to celebrate someone's death because you don't agree with what they said. Um, that's very, very disrespectful. The man has a wife. He has kids. And I think that that if if it's a problem with what

52:26 he said, the man said, "Prove me wrong." >> He said, "Hey, well, come and let's debate it," or whatever like that. So, I think it would have been more appropriate >> to to get a a debater on his level and debate it than to kill someone or to celebrate their death. And I'm always going to stand on that. And like I told folks, I don't backpedal >> and I don't waver. >> I said I like them and I did like them. >> And I think that if if there's a group of people that that out there that

52:57 thinks, well, you shouldn't run for office based on who you like. We have a right. That's what this country is based on. Uh Voltater. Well, they say this Volter was actually a woman that said this where I may not agree with a word that you say, but I will fight for your right to say it. >> Yep. That's that's me, Victor. Absolutely. Yeah. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. So, you know, that's why that's why it's interesting. So, I think right now I'm running. Let me say this. It's very important we get this out. Christie, everyone knows I'm a former sheriff. I'm

53:32 actually a former legislator. I was a state representative before I was sheriff. And when I got elected, it was 2002. And the state of Georgia turned red for the first time in a hundred years. We had our first Republican governor for 100 years. We had our first Republican Senate or whatever. And when I got elected, what did I do? Okay, I didn't run around calling the the the governor races and calling the Republicans racist or whatever, yelling and screaming and all that stuff like that. Okay, what I did was see, okay, what can we agree on and work on to get

54:05 done? What what can we have common ground on? We may not agree on everything, but there's some things that we we everyone should agree on, like crime. Everybody wants to be safe. Everybody wants to be able to afford to to take care of their families. And I was able to do something in one term that most legislators cannot do. And my opponent hasn't done since they've been in Congress. I actually authored and passed into bill four laws. So, there's four laws in Georgia that I authored that my name is on that are laws in Georgia. That was with a Republican

54:36 Senate, a Republican House, and a Republican governor, right? Um, one of the things the governor wanted me to work on, we didn't agree on, but we shook hands and agreed, "Governor, I can't work with you on this, but I do want to work with you on other things." So, it wasn't any arguing, calling names, all this craziness like that, and your races and all kind of craziness like that. Okay. Well, I say that to say this. You know, there are people in the Democratic party like my opponent. There's a lot of hell raising. There's a

55:08 lot of calling folks racist and stuff, but if you look, not one piece of legislation has been passing. It's one thing to introduce. Anyone can drop a bill in a hopper and say, "Hey, I just I just dropped something." But actually getting it passed through the House and the Senate and then signed by the governor, that's a whole different thing. And in order to do that, you got to have relationships. You got to reach across the aisle. There has to be compromise. So, it's gonna be >> Well, and there also has to be there also has to be, Victor, like an equal

55:35 mindset. Like, for instance, I'm Republican, you're Democrat, and we're talking to each other. We we want the same things really. Like, we want the same values. We want our families. We want to live safe. We don't want lawfare. We don't want um you know and there is 100% I will say state this and I stated it over and over again black people are prosecuted like over way over prosecuted. There's no doubt in that whatsoever and and it needs to stop you know so I agree with that and and white people don't know what black people go

56:10 through. So, I want to say that as a as a white woman who, you know, you can't pretend like, you know, an LGBTQ cannot pretend like they know what a black what it's like to be black. That is not true. They do not know what it's like. >> I agree. That's two different things. >> We don't know what it's like to be them, you know? I mean, so that >> exactly. >> Yeah. So, >> I agree and and I'm glad you said that and and and let me tell you something I've been saying. I'm glad you brought

56:34 that up. That's a very very good point. So look, we got a Republican and a Democrat talking on issues and talking, not calling each other names, whatever like that. But here's what I try to get a lot of people to realize. Especially people who are want criminal justice reform and think it's unformed. We have a very unique time and opportunity here. We have a president who's been the victim of the criminal justice system. You know, there's always people, no, no, that's not true. Your case is different. No, it's not. It's ironic that every time I'm prosecuted and when he was

57:06 prosecuted is when he's running for reelection >> or when he was running to get the job back. Timing right there tells you it's suspicious. >> Had he not ran, they wouldn't have tried to indict. But ironically, I'm going to run again. Okay. Well, we need a special purp jury and we're going to indict you. Same thing happened with me. It's ironic. I've gone my whole life without the most as a speeding ticket when I was a teenager and all of a sudden when I get in politics now special purpose grand juries are being informed and

57:34 everything like that but we have a president that that has experienced that. We have a president that has appointed a man to be second in command of the bop that was once a federal inmate. We have a president that appointed a black woman to be a pardon kazar and look at cases where people whatever. This is a unique time where if we're ever going to get changes in the criminal justice system, if anything can ever be done so that people are treated fairly, black and white, Republican and Democrat, because we all of us have suffered from this these grand juries

58:14 and plea deals and stuff. Okay, now is the time. And so here's a time to sit down and reach across aisles and get something done that can help everybody because there are people in place who understand just how crazy the criminal justice system with these grand juries are. >> Yes. >> What a better time to do it and what a better time to reach across the aisle instead of just insults and stuff like that. So am I going to remain a Democrat? Yeah. But all this craziness, no, I've got to reach across. If you bring a child to the House floor who has

58:53 cancer >> and give him an award, I'm gonna stand and clap. That's ridiculous. >> Yeah. And me too, Victor. I refuse to be a part of I refuse to I refuse to be a part of hate, anything hate or hateful in any way, shape, or form. And we saw, you know, the biggest form of forgiveness with Charlie Kirk's wife forgiving his killer directly after. And we all as Americans need to realize, you know, number one, we must forgive people, but we also must start to align on their on the things that are our collective values because we have much

59:29 more collective values than we do differences. And and then when somebody different, you know, differs with us, we move on. Okay. We we we can't get we can't get to that point. You know, it's fine. You know, >> that funeral was amazing. I'mma break something. You probably gonna laugh at this. Let me tell you what was what was so great about that funeral. That was a great There was two great moments of that funeral for me. You got her, which we were taught, our grandmothers taught us that in church. We we learned about the master Christ and about loving

1:00:01 and forgiving. And that was that had to be one of the most beautiful moments. But let me tell you what's what was also beautiful. You know, I'm a yin-yang guy. I love tai chi. There's balance. It's whatever. >> But I was also and you know, hey, take it what you want. Who can get mad at what I'm about to say? But I like honest people. What what what I liked about Charlie was the fact that he said he said it whether you liked it or not. Then the president comes and he says, "Hey, I know uh you just forgave them

1:00:32 and everything, but I can't stand him." >> Yeah. honesty. >> Yes. >> Right. >> Yeah. Because he could have he could have like sometimes with President Trump like listen I wish he would have with President Trump. I love him to death. I mean really I do as a as a human being. But sometimes I want to go President Trump. Why didn't you just do the politically correct thing that you could have done here? But he didn't. You're going to know what he's thinking. You're going to know whether we all like it or not. It's not going to be perfect. you

1:01:02 know, he goes off script, but at least we know what he's thinking. >> Hey, it I I I appreciate a person that I know where you stand. And there's a lot of us in our Chris our Christian walk. I'm one of them. I probably haven't made it to the level of Charlie Kirk's wife yet, >> right? I have I I haven't made it there. And that's why it was so impressive to see to see true Christianity uh being done that and so that gives me something to work towards because I can tell you if someone shot my significant

1:01:39 other that probably would be the last thing on my mind right now. So I appreciate the fact that she was there and then I also appreciated the fact that the leader says I ain't there. I I I don't I don't like these people and they need to be dealt with or whatever like that. And um I just thought it was it those were two moments for me that meant a lot. One of them meant a lot because I'm a man of faith and I was like, you know what, I need to work on forgiveness more. And then it was also

1:02:07 good to know that there was someone there honest enough to say, yeah, I know y'all I don't like them. you know, and and you know, because it's hard to like people who indict you and try to send you to prison just so they can win an election or think is cool to kill people and think it's okay to whatever. And you know, that type of stuff, you know, you know, I trust me, I get it. Now, of course, we're trying to work towards being Christlike, and that's that's that's a hard thing to do, but we're gonna we're

1:02:39 never going to stop trying. That's right. That's right. >> And then and then and then hopefully hopefully we're gonna we're gonna make it there. You know what I'm saying? >> Yep. Absolutely, sir. Listen, I definitely listen, there's so much we have to talk about that we haven't covered. I want you to come back because I want to get into the corruption in the prisons, how can sheriffs stop it, what should they look out for? Because I know you also were stopping drugs from coming into prisons, which I'm hugely passionate about. And we'll talk about that because

1:03:09 >> it can be stopped. When anyone tells you you can't stop, my jail had no drugs, no cell phone, can be stopped. But what does it take to stop it? You're right. That's a whole another show. >> We're going to get into that next time because I know that's a whole another topic. I mean, >> it's a whole another topic. >> I want you I want you to come back as soon as you can. Okay. I'll text you >> then. I'll be back next week then. I guess >> you're coming back next week. Okay. I'm

1:03:31 gonna have a whole series, Victor. I mean, listen, I love you already. like through our conversation and I appreciate you and you know I know you're a Democrat >> but you know I you still love me isn't it white black democrat >> I love you as a human because human you're not I don't I've never looked at people's the color of their skin although we see it like it's there you know I can't say oh where you know people treat you as equally as they do me uh but at the same time I want people

1:04:02 to know I have also been publicly prosecuted for a political take on things. Okay. So, you know, I've been arrested for resisting I mean, I've been prosecuted for resisting arrests. Okay. During a campaign conveniently, very much like you, Victor. So, we're going to get into all of that. I may you may be the first one that I actually share the footage with publicly so people can see it and get your take on it. And um yeah, I mean, that would be >> No, no, no. That'd be awesome. I think I think No, listen and I know we'll talk

1:04:36 about this offline, but let's do a little series and um I think I think this is a conversation that needs to be had. >> Black, white, Democrat, Republican, female, male, you know, you know. >> Well, let me because we because we've talked about one thing, I do want you to comment on something that I've that I've was able to pull up where the jury the juror provided information. So, let's just play this quick quick clip because we have talked about the juror because I want people to also understand how crazy things are um with jurors and how

1:05:12 they're influenced. >> News has suspended Clayton County Sheriff Victor Hill is now found guilty on six of the seven counts of violating inmates constitutional rights. >> Since we last checked in with our Doug Richards at 5 o'clock, he has spoken to one of the jurors in this federal trial. So, let's get out to Doug right now. Doug, what can you tell us? Well, uh, Sheriff Victor Hill himself left the federal courthouse just a minute ago out a door over my right shoulder. Uh, he slipped into a van and as has been his habit for much of the

1:05:40 last decade, uh, did not comment to reporters. Uh, this was a jury verdict that uh, took place over 20 >> Let me pause it right there, Victor, because I want the audience to understand. They may they use words like slipped into a van. You didn't comment. Well, a lot of times your attorney tells you not to comment because >> No, no, no. Look, no. I'm glad you brought that up. I haven't spoken to the media in over a decade. I was the I probably made the Guinness Book of World Records and I write about it in that in

1:06:09 that book, the press of prosecutors and and the Robert Foy syndrome. Uh I I just started communicating directly with my constituents because the media would twist everything. So, he's a guy that's actually mad at me because I haven't given him an interview in over a decade anyway. So, that's why the media had a lot to do with this case because they were at me too because I never gave them interviews. I never did press conferences. Anytime something happened, I would uh directly communicate with the citizens of my county through social media and text messages. I would never

1:06:46 give them an interview. So, there's a lot more to that. So, I never I hadn't spoken to them in over a decade. I still haven't spoken to them. I only do podcasts and and shows like this where people can hear everything I say. Exactly. >> I was like, well, I know you were on with Savannah Chrisley and I was like, oh my gosh, you'll come on with me. Yay. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Right. You could give but no, but but >> it's a complete thought. Meaning, if you want to know what I'm saying, you're

1:07:16 hearing the whole conversation. Now, of course, we've se and we've seen this happen in the last four days. People take a clip of something and put it out there and make it seem as if though a person is this or that, but they didn't play what what happened before, what after. So you get the whole context of the situation. But the best way to get that done is media like you. >> If you talk to a guy like that, they're going to clip it long enough just just for just for that and then it takes

1:07:43 everything out of context. >> Yep. Exactly. Because we don't clip anything here. We don't add anything back in. It is what it is, you know. Um, so let's continue >> hours about of deliberations that began on Friday uh and that seemed to be deadlocked at noon today and then all of a sudden late this afternoon uh the jury announced that there had been a verdict. Uh there was one juror who was kind of described as a hold out on the seven charges uh that the jury had to consider. The jury found Victor Hill guilty of violating the constitutional

1:08:16 rights of inmates in the Clayton County jail in six of the seven counts. Uh the jury foreman had complained during the course of the trial that there was one particular juror who was not deliberating properly, was not was misunderstanding the law. uh and the foreman came out and talked to the judge twice about this juror and um early and then that juror came around as part of a unanimous verdict. Uh we talked to that juror, his name is Graham Lloyd Carter, a 72-year-old Sandy Springs man about the verdict and he also talked a little bit about Sheriff Victor Hill.

1:08:55 We hold him in great esteem and as was expressed is that we do not think that he is a man of malicious intent and all. We do think that they were violations and that once there were violations they need to be addressed. And um at one point the forerson of the jury uh said that uh Mr. Carter, the other the juror we just heard from had told the jury panel that he believed that the sheriff was actually above the law. We asked Carter about that out in the parking lot a few minutes ago. He said that he never said that. He

1:09:44 described the jury proceedings as >> Can you stop one second? Stop one second. So So two So two things I want you to know. They're not showing that whole interview with him and next time we get together, I'm gonna show you something else. Okay, this man was called out twice. He told the judge, "I'm being yelled at. I'm being screamed at." >> The foreman of the jury kept sending out notes against him. And one of the notes she sent out was very interesting. Let's So this shows how Democrat, Republican stuff can come into whatever. She sent

1:10:17 out a note that said that he believes that the sheriff and the president has immunity. This was during the time that the president was up before the Supreme Court about immunity. So, >> she was trying to say to this Democratic appointed judge and and to uh very liberal area that we were in at that time that hey, this guy that does not want to vote to convict the sheriff. essentially as she was saying is a Trump supporter. >> That's that's really what she was saying. >> And and to inflame the media, to inflame everybody else, but that's what she

1:10:56 said. >> Wow. >> And then after four days of deliberation, after this guy coming out saying they yelled at me, screamed at me, called names, the next thing you look there's a conviction. I was convicted of six out of seven. Do you know why they didn't convict me at a seven? because there was video showing that it was a sergeant that said, "Put this guy in a restraint here." Not me. So, because I didn't say it, they didn't convict me. But no one has gone back to that sergeant and indicted him for putting the guy in a strength

1:11:29 chair. So, what are we saying? If Victor Hill says, "Put a guy in restraint chair, >> we're going to indict. It's illegal." Well, he said, "Put him in a restraint chair, so it's okay." If they were really concerned about this guy being in strength chair, thought he shouldn't have been there. The minute that this that that they saw the sergeant saying that, why didn't they put together a grand jury and indict the sergeant? >> I was going to say, why didn't they? Well, and also the other thing we've realized is, you know, they want to keep

1:11:54 coming up with RICO, but they want to charge one person with RICO when RICO is supposed to be a collective group of crimes committed about uh committed amongst a group of people. Um, meanwhile, you know, it does appear that there's a lot of people that, you know, may be committing RICO, you know, mobstyle RICO out there that they're really not indicting. They're not even like they're not even investigating, you know, I mean, it's crazy. And and a lot of them are the politicians themselves, but they want to claim like they have immunity, you know, in some ways, which

1:12:25 is very strange. Okay. And even and even in this case, okay, if you really thought this was use of force, which there was no force used, okay, there are deputies there, they're putting the person in the restraint jail, whatever. You know, there's this big thing. If you're standing there and you don't stop it, you're supposed to go to jail to be prosecuted. So, you got these deputies that are strapping a person in restraint chair. How is it all of a sudden that, okay, well, we only prosecute you, but we don't prosecute them, >> right? But so no one should have been

1:12:58 prosecuted. But what I'm saying is if if you really thought this was wrong and you really How is it that they escaped that? >> Which goes to show that this was a political prosecution that stinks to high heaven. >> Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, let's finish out this video and then we'll have this one done. >> You can kind of see why it took him since Friday to finally reach a verdict in the Victor Hill case. Live. Well, he says you can kind of see why. Like he's So he's putting thoughts into the public's head. Like in other words, you

1:13:31 know that they should see what he's seeing as a journalist. >> There's actually a video where he's following this guy to the car and saying what what happened? They finally made you give in or whatever. I mean, it it it was very obvious that something was wrong. Uh, and no one in the history of the United States have been called out twice in front of a crowd, in front of the media to be questioned about why. And the reason that happened is remember the judge, Judge Ellen Ross, was friends with my political opponent, friends with

1:14:10 the DA. Her husband worked in the DA's office that came after me for stealing my own police car. >> Then bringing it back, keeping my brought it back. Yeah. You stole it, but you brought it back, >> right? When I wet the car the whole time. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Exactly. >> By the way, it's very normal for for officers to drive their cars home. Everybody like if you have an officer or a fire marshal, they can drive their cars home, >> right? and and my car is with me 24/7 because I'm on call 24/7 cuz even if no

1:14:44 matter where I'm at, >> I'm authorized to get to use the county card to get a plane ticket to come back immediately if something happens. >> You see what I'm saying? So that's why you're in that car like that. But anyway, I say all that to say this. All of this was unique because it was important to her to get a conviction because of her connections. And think about this. We were not allowed to bring up this fact. Remember the guy who worked on the campaign, they never charged me with him. Why? Because it would tell the jury this started from a

1:15:16 political campaign. This is how it started. And we weren't allowed to tell the jury about the fact that this started from a political campaign. If the jury knew that, >> I don't think that that the rest of them would have went along with this. But even even even with that, >> this guy was like, "Hey, this doesn't seem like willful intent or whatever like that." He even said that it's no malicious or whatever. Yeah. And notice they don't need willful intent anymore. That's just thrown out out the door. If I'm following policy, if I'm following

1:15:46 training, how is that a willful intent to commit a crime? >> Yep. Exactly. And then and then um did you appeal the decision? >> I did. I did. And Did they still convict you and take you to jail even though you had filed the appeal? >> Yes. Uh here's what's interesting. >> We we we filed the appeal and we filed to state the to for me to be out until the appeal happened. There was a a judge. Now, I can't prove the connection to him and Ross. I have no proof of that, but let me tell you why I believe

1:16:22 there is a connection. He denied me being able to be out on appeal. Guess who sat on the three board of appeals? Him. So the very judge that says, "I'm I'm I'm denying that." He's on the three panel to review the appeal, which they deny. >> Wow. >> Think about that. >> How is that how is that even how is that even? >> I don't get right. But the fact that he didn't even um allow that to happen. Then when I found out he was on a three panel member to decide about this appeal and even and what was interesting about

1:16:57 this case was this um they noted that what she did was odd and never been done before. Uh I've never seen this done where you pull out a juror twice but it was like we're just going to reprimmen you. We're not going to I wasn't granted a new trial but we're just going to reprimand you. So you could tell it was just rigged from from from there to there. >> They should have done a they should have done a mistrial, right? When the juror >> Right. They should have been a mistrial, right? When you got a juror out there

1:17:28 saying, "Hey, I'm being yelled at and screamed at what did she do?" Send them right back in there. >> And and then they they said that even though this hadn't been done before, there was a dissenter. He wrote a dissent. A not a dissenting vote, but a dissent about what happened. Well, if you thought that was wrong and you even they even said, "Hey, I've never seen this before." Whatever, >> then why did you not allow me that to have a new trial? At least do whatever. Well, you could tell that he was already on the mindset from the fact that it was

1:18:01 when we asked for an appeal bond, he wouldn't grant it. So, the person that wouldn't grant an appeal bond is now making the decision about the appeal. And that just goes to show how how bad this system is or whatever. You know, you first of all, you got to ask a judge on your case for it and then it goes to this particular judge. You know, you first got to ask that particular judge. Okay. Well, if this judge just rigged my trial, just push this hold out juror, friends with my political opponents on social media,

1:18:37 >> friends with the DA, whatever like that. There's a whole lot more to that. We can talk later. How in the world can you go to that judge and ask for anything? And can you believe that on one of the civil cases, because some of these inmates have sued, guess who's a judge on a civil case? >> The same judge. I kid you not. >> You've got to be kidding. >> I kid you not. >> We will leave it at there until next time because we got to go into the civils because I mean it is

1:19:05 >> it just I mean really when I said earlier it's better than a Lifetime movie >> but it's reality. I mean so that's what we're dealing with. >> Well Victor, God bless you. I will see you week. Okay. Where can people find you right now? >> They can find you on social media. My absolutely my web page is is is victor hillforongress.com and then of course I'm on Facebook, Tik Tok, Instagram. Um and yeah, I'm I'm on all of those platforms. >> Okay. And can people donate to your campaign? >> Absolutely. On the web page.

1:19:44 >> On the web page and we would definitely definitely appreciate that. >> Okay. So, um, you know, go to Victor Hill, um, for Congress, especially if you're in Clayton County. Um, make sure that you share this video, make sure you share this interview because, um, you know, we it's important for us to get the truth out. And then I also want to encourage everybody in the United States um, to buy this book. Um, and you can listen to it on audio. Victor's voice is actually the audio. Um, so there's nothing better. You can listen to it in

1:20:15 your car. Listen to it on the way because this is most likely not only happening in Clayton County or Atlanta, Georgia. This is most likely happening in a in your own neighborhood or in a neighborhood near you that is drastically affecting you. Um that you just don't realize, you know, because you know there are people like Victor and even myself that move in. You know, even though I've been in Miami a decade, you know, I've been told an Anglo will never win anything here. And you know, really? Okay. Well, you know, I sure to get some name recognition really quick

1:20:46 by telling, you know, telling the truth and speaking out for citizens and um, you know, not letting, you know, when I was in code enforcement board, not allowing people's, you know, pro properties in probate to be turned around and their generational wealth be gone and $300,000 in grass cutting fees. Imagine that, Victor. There's so much that they do. >> We got a lot to talk about. >> We got a lot to talk about, my friend. Well, listen. God bless you, Victor. And audience to you. >> Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go over a couple things with my audience and then

1:21:19 we're going to be out. But audience, make sure that you do follow Victor, you like him. U make sure that you like this video, share it with your friend because we have to get the word out. And we're going to do a series. Victor, I'll see you next week, same time. Okay? If not, I'll text you. We may we may have to change the time. I have to look and see what other interviews I've already got set up, but I'll text you because this was a good time for me. if that's good for you. But we'll get it all set up.

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1:22:16 think I think this is this is great. Again, I want to say something that we said earlier. Republican, Democrat, white, black, male, female, but here we are talking and agreeing on common ground. And that's what it's going to take to get things done. And uh I think I think this is proof that you know, you know, there's this thing out here like all Democrats are weird liberals, all Republicans are racist. That's not true. We just got to talk. We got common ground. And um I've done it before when I was a legislator before. And there

1:22:49 great things done. We'll talk about those bills. And that's what it's going to take to get things done, working together and and getting past all of the childishness. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely, Victor. Okay. God bless you and I will see you next week. >> You take care. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay, audience. Um, if you like this, make sure that you share. Make sure that you go and follow Victor. He's got some great insights on his social media. And like he said, this has really nothing to do with Democrat versus black skinned versus white, um, female

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