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Bay of Pigs veteran Frank de Varona on Cuba, freedom & U.S. politics | 2022 interview

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Bay of Pigs veteran and Cuban-born educator Frank de Varona joins Christi Tasker to discuss his childhood in Cuba, the 1961 invasion and his concerns about freedom and U.S. politics. This Patriots Perspective interview combines personal recollections with political commentary from 2022.

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CHRISTI TASKER

Award-winning tech entrepreneur, designer, and PR pioneer. Christi brings a marketer’s eye and a creator’s curiosity to conversations about power, public narratives, and people behind the headlines.

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Frank de Varona

Frank de Varona appears in archived interviews and conversations featured on Patriots Perspective.

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Bay of Pigs veteran and Cuban-born educator Frank de Varona joins Christi Tasker to discuss his childhood in Cuba, the 1961 invasion and his concerns about freedom and U.S. politics. This Patriots Perspective interview combines personal recollections with political commentary from 2022.

Frank describes volunteering at age 17, training in Guatemala, joining Brigade 2506 and his criticism of changes to the invasion plan. He also discusses his work in Miami-Dade schools, parental participation in education, his books and the Bay of Pigs museum.

In the second half, Frank and Christi debate Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the Putin–Xi statement, the Budapest Memorandum, U.S. foreign policy, border policy and election concerns. Their interpretations, allegations and predictions reflect the conversation at the time of recording and are not independently established by this interview. Premiered May 22, 2022.

Topics covered in this episode

  • Introducing Frank de Varona
  • Childhood in Cuba and life before Castro
  • What was the Bay of Pigs?
  • Comparisons with U.S. politics and education
  • Parents, teachers and school-board participation
  • Volunteering and training in Guatemala
  • Changes to the invasion plan
  • Christi’s family recollections
  • Air support, Brigade 2506 and the museum
  • Books, research and the Ukraine discussion
  • Frank’s interpretation of Russia and China
  • Border policy and domestic concerns
  • Media, institutions and competing theories
  • Election concerns and local participation
  • Ukraine and the Budapest Memorandum
  • Debating interpretations of U.S. foreign policy
  • Ukraine, NATO and escalation concerns
  • Russia, China and global institutions
  • Frank’s books and where to find them

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Bay of Pigs veteran and Cuban-born educator Frank de Varona joins Christi Tasker to discuss his childhood in Cuba, the 1961 invasion and his concerns about freedom and U.S. politics. This Patriots Perspective interview combines personal recollections with political commentary from 2022.

Frank describes volunteering at age 17, training in Guatemala, joining Brigade 2506 and his criticism of changes to the invasion plan. He also discusses his work in Miami-Dade schools, parental participation in education, his books and the Bay of Pigs museum.

In the second half, Frank and Christi debate Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the Putin–Xi statement, the Budapest Memorandum, U.S. foreign policy, border policy and election concerns. Their interpretations, allegations and predictions reflect the conversation at the time of recording and are not independently established by this interview. Premiered May 22, 2022.

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00:00 Introducing Frank de Varona
02:27 Childhood in Cuba and life before Castro
05:17 What was the Bay of Pigs?
07:27 Comparisons with U.S. politics and education
09:32 Parents, teachers and school-board participation
15:00 Volunteering and training in Guatemala
18:12 Changes to the invasion plan
19:30 Christi’s family recollections
21:34 Air support, Brigade 2506 and the museum
22:30 Books, research and the Ukraine discussion
25:08 Frank’s interpretation of Russia and China
31:25 Border policy and domestic concerns
35:08 Media, institutions and competing theories
40:23 Election concerns and local participation
46:49 Ukraine and the Budapest Memorandum
53:07 Debating interpretations of U.S. foreign policy
57:35 Ukraine, NATO and escalation concerns
1:03:00 Russia, China and global institutions
1:09:12 Frank’s books and where to find them
1:13:36 Closing thoughts and viewer questions

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  • Introducing Frank de Varona
  • Childhood in Cuba and life before Castro
  • What was the Bay of Pigs?
  • Comparisons with U.S. politics and education
  • Parents, teachers and school-board participation
  • Volunteering and training in Guatemala
  • Changes to the invasion plan

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0:00 oh wait hold on just a second uh frank so frank i'm notorious for mispronouncing people's last names in spanish it's de oh just call me frank and then you can meet him i just call you frank call me frank and i'll call you chrissy and yes okay wonderful hello everyone we're so happy that you're joining us here today on patriots perspective as you know patriots perspective is a platform where we listen to all opinions and for especially those who have been in communist communist countries and who have experienced and investigated communism from the deepest levels

0:50 so i could not think of anyone better to have on with me today than frank de verona frank and i met at a meeting here in miami um his book is about two inches thick and it's about the bay of pigs and many other things regarding the deep state frank you got a book you can hold up i actually i meant to grab your book off my coffee table and i did not do so thank you yes i have that book on my coffee table um frank is very very well written everyone and i highly recommend

1:23 any of his books because 400 pages it is it's basically a manual i'm going to say this it's a manual it has the photographs and everything a lot of what has been doxxed or censored off of facebook youtube and frank i'm going to post the link down below so for those of you looking for frank's books i'm going to put those in the patriots perspective library and i highly recommend that you get these books because it is not just for for frank's wallet this this has nothing to do with that he does not charge enough for these books in my opinion and um he really wants to get the information out there to people

2:04 so frank welcome to patriots perspective this is the first time you're on and i'm sure it's not going to be the last we're going to try to keep it at about an hour today this broadcast is thankfully going to go on right on radio and we would like to thank right on radio and their listeners for taking the opportunity to listen to what frank has had to say um frank tell us where you're originally from and tell us a little bit about yourself well first of all christy thank you so much for uh for this interview and uh i know it's the first one so i hope it

2:36 won't be the last one uh i met you you and your mother both of you are very impressive you know and um and you talked the first time i met you to about 30 or 40 people that we had in the audience and they were very impressed by you so you're gonna have to come and be a speaker in a future meeting of us here in miami but yes uh i was born in camaguey cuba it was the third largest city when cuba only had six million people i grew up in the 1950s in cuba when cuba was a very prosperous

3:08 country in latin america and in fact our peso at the same value as the dollar one to one you could go to the central bank of cuba and say i have one million pesos and you would get one million dollars and my dad was a cattleman he purchased a lot of cattle from the king ranch in texas so he will go to the bank and say i need a hundred thousand dollars you will give a hundred thousand pesos there was no exchange control in cuba in the 1950s we were uh we ate more meat per person than the

3:40 united states in the 1950s of cuba and we had more fish per person than people in our states we had a lot of radio stations all over the island we had caller tv i think was number two after united states that we had that there were many color tv stations in the 50s for a small island with six million people it was at the head of latin america and prosperity and then we had castro lying saying he was a democrat he wanted to get rid of a dictator that we have a name of fujinso batista bring back the constitution 1940 and then we had herbert matthews from the new york times

4:19 that made castro into a hero and you know about the new lord you know the new york times is the voice of the council of foreign relations one of the main global institutions that we have united states together with the uh trilateral commission the bilderberg groups coal and bones you know a bunch of them that we have here uh in the united states which i of course in this book i mentioned in great detail but anyway so uh that prosperous island became uh totally uh ruined economically when communism comes to a country you have shootings on the wall over 30 thousand people in cuba have been shot on the wall you have lots of people that go to

5:02 prison over three hundred thousand pistol and that tiny island has been to prison including myself my brother my cousins because of course i invaded cuba the bay of peaks tried to overthrow the government and we were captured and centered to 30 years of hard labor but anyway all of that changed for the worse okay can i ask you a question because a lot of people don't know what the bay of pigs is you know we have to remember we've you've been you've been in cuba you've lived this out and many of us in under our education

5:32 here in the united states i didn't know all about this until you and i met until i started reading your books so can you explain to our listeners what the bay of pigs is just in case they're new to this of course i'll be happy to do that christy um communism enter queue in 1959 fidel castro never said he was a communist in fact two years or three years after he's in power he finally says on december 2nd 1961 i have always been a communist since the day i entered university of havana which was in 1948 but he lied to the cuban people and once he's in power then of course a lot of the cuban people find out he was a

6:13 common is good by that time it's too late you know the first thing they did take away all the weapons but that's why we have to protect the second amendment in america under no circumstances can we give our weapons away if we do we lose because the technology as you well know is to protect us from a tyrannical government in washington is not to defend ourselves from enemy nations but to defend herself of my own government which indeed right now we need to defend ourselves of the government in washington which as you know is predominantly marxist dominated by

6:44 marxism but anyway going back to cuba cuba then becomes a communist nation then the eisenhower administration that decides that they want to do regime change in cuba so they on march of 1960 that our administration says okay we want to do regime change let's start training anti-castro cubans uh in the united states uh actually we did not train here but they began recruiting was here uh and they sent us to guatemala to be trained i was a student together with my older brother first of all i graduated from uh i came to student united states when i was 14

7:23 years old and this is 1957. all right first of all frank before you go before you get to the united states i want to ask a couple of questions so what similarity similarities do you see then like at that point in cuba like when the the takeover really happened what similarities do you see then and now a lot of similarities i think i'm i'm having a rerun of the pictures in cuba what's happening here in the united states you know we have a council culture we we are teaching communism in all of our schools we teach uh uh the two uh teachers union the american federation

8:04 of teachers and the national education association are run by communists so what are we teaching our students in government schools or public schools where we're teaching critical race theories how whites are superior to blacks blacks are uh have to you know rebel against a white we're teaching a division we're teaching the black lives matter pre-k uh 12 correct and by the way we're teaching that right here in miami they county public schools we don't go that far yeah we teach it with videos you know they have the night right here but by the way i worked 36 years in the miami

8:43 dade county public schools all the way to deputy superintendent schools so i really know the school system well but it wasn't the school system today is not the school system where i worked several years ago and then i became a professor of social studies at florida international university for seven and a half years but going back to the school system right in miami they are teaching through videos in kindergarten iii opera elementary grades middle school and high school communism they don't call it openly yes but it is communism that we're teaching not only here throughout the united states they did that in cuba too as soon as they took over they began teaching communism because

9:25 once we lose the young people once we make them companies it's over for our nation here excuse me in the united states it's totally over okay if you were if you were a teacher teaching this right now can you give let's i love to give action items as we're going through the interview what would you do if you you know if you were teaching in miami-dade school system right now what would you what would you do what would you change i would not use those videos of course they're all communist videos and now as you well know our great governor ron desantis he has banned through an

10:04 executive order the teaching of critical cultural theory so they are violating that right here in this district which happens to be the fourth largest district in america and there's a bill in tallahassee about to become law that any parents can sue any their 67 school districts in florida because we have 67 counties any parent can sue a school district that's teaching communism to their students so either they cannot public school doesn't change get ready for lawsuits okay because they will there will be a lot of laws it's going to cost them a lot of money and that's a excellent thing that desantis is doing with that particular law and

10:44 and we have to utilize that as citizens um so we just can't step back and let governor desantis you know create these mandates or laws or you know or we actually have to utilize them because it is such a strong force um so i want to encourage any you know i gave a story and i'm not going to go into the milk story with my daughter you can actually go back and listen to that some prior interviews but you have to stand up for what you believe in in the school system and go to the school board meetings to stop it

11:16 um the other thing frank is that they are also i would like to say while you're while you're talking about the miami-dade school system there are a list of books that parents have found that are not only not only communism but they're also promoting sexual identity and i'm talking about things that i will not even say here on air regarding books that are being read to our school children that are absolutely unacceptable that they would make any adult blush so you need to know what's going on in the school system you need to know what's being taught and be prepared to pull your children out because every school system they get money for every

11:56 child that's left in so please consider you know pulling yourself children out to homeschool them for the time being so frank okay let's continue on we are teaching pornography also not only here but throughout florida and right now as you know this the legislature has passed a new law that we cannot be discussing gender issues from kindergarten to grade three the bible administration called that an anti-gay law which is not kindergarten kids have no business being taught about transgender and that's in the curriculum so that's a good step to stop that but it's much worse in california christie in

12:36 california where all the bad things begin uh they may have uh women i mean men dressed as women reading gay gay books to kids in kindergarten and in pre-k yes they do queens reading and then they're teaching horrendous things it's much worse in california in washington in new york it is so bad in california not only are teaching uh all all of those things that are being pushed by the the gay agenda but they are also teaching communism so we're graduating kids in california that are marxist and our sexually confused children and they did a study at the university of california and it revealed listen to this 24 of the high school students in

13:28 california are unhappy with their gender that is one out of every every four not every five yeah yeah whenever they're standing outstanding in new york they teach that you can choose among maybe 17 different genders boy and girl is just two and you can choose to be you know transgender this and that the other and there they did a story and seventeen percent of the students in new york are unhappy with their gender so we are graduating marxist sexually confused students is i agree with you and i just want to say to everybody that's listening here because this is a this audience that we have it's the very you know we everyone is either

14:14 pretty awake or already woken up for like a couple of years you know like they know they've been investigating so one one thing i want to say is one of the ways we can combat this is we all know that there's algorithms online and they're asking like what your gender is just say you don't know you'd rather not say don't let them know what your gender is or put down one of those like genders they want to hear they want to know that you're like messy and confused because what that does is it makes your content rank in the algorithms because they're like yeah

14:44 we want this person so make sure that you do that because we can also there are things we can do to combat what's what the enemy is trying to do right now so frank i want to get back to your move from from cuba well first of all i want to get back to your training you said that they sent you guys to guatemala to train what did that mean what does training mean yes um well i graduated from high school when i was 16 years old and then i went to georgia tech to become an engineer with my older brother

15:16 who was two years older than me and then in mid-march in 1961 we came to see our parents that were living in miami beach at the time and both of us announced that we wanted to go and fight to overthrow the communist government of cuba uh and we were aware of that because we had a relative who was used to be prime minister of cuba minister of labor president of the senate and he was an anti-communist democratic leader in cuba so we knew through him that there were these camps in guatemala we already had friends there i even had a first

15:46 cousin that was there already so um well my father let my brother go because he was 19 but he didn't want me to go i was 17 i needed his written permission so my brother left and my father said you cannot go you're 17. i'm not going to let you go so i fought my dad for about a week i'm not going to go back to georgia tech i'll sit here on my life watching tv and at the end of the week i won and then he signed and then i joined my brother now at the time i arrived in guatemala it was up in the hills of guatemala

16:19 we landed in the cia had built an airstrip in a city called retale in guatemala that's where we had our air force being trained the cia had asked for 24 b-26s and we received only they received only 16. that's a world war ii light bomber the b-26 and those were were gonna our pilots were being trained by alabama national guardsmen who had those steel planes back in 61 they were the only the only place in the united states that was still having those those world war ii uh light bombers so we were trained our pilots were trained by these pilots on the

17:00 alabama national guard and there was a general that headed that group uh anyway so by the time i arrived uh it was april 1st easter sunday i remember distinctly it was easter sunday but i only have 13 days of training although i am in a fargo of course i i would shoot rifles there for three years i went to four summer camps in the united states where i took rifles you're shooting my dad had a ranch where my brother and i would always be shooting birds or whatever so i was an excellent shooter in fact i was the best shooter in my company when i was training in guatemala but i only had 13 days of training because on april 13 1961 they

17:40 flew the 1500 of us from guatemala to uh puerto cabezas nicaragua that the government nicaragua has allowed the cia to use that port which is on the on the atlantic coast for our obsolete world war ii cargo ships liberty type which will never be used for an invasion those all the ships you know they were impossible to use but anyway so um they were in puerto cabezas and also they had an air force base there for our b-26s but the problem was that the eisenhower developed plan which was approved by the joint chief of staff and by the cia was completely changed by president kennedy

18:28 because he had a bunch of globalists in his administration that did not want us to invade cuba and topple the communist government the worst one was dean ross secretary of state that for 10 years he was the head of the rockefeller foundation and he didn't care what kennedy said he followed whatever david rockefeller told him to do but not only was he a globalist who did not want us to win did not even want us to invade cuba there were other globalists in the kenyan administration like the bondy brothers who were in charge of the national security council of the kennedy white house you are also threatening junior you had a bunch of globalists all of

19:08 them professors from harvard leftist professor maybe some of them socialist or perhaps marxist and those who gave horrible advice to president kennedy so all the plans that have been prepared but unapproved by the young chief staff were completely changed if they had not changed those plans we could have won the invasion was going to take place in the city of trinidad well let me just tell you my grandfather frank um just for those who are just listening in but not because i've waited i've not shared this information too much um but my grandfather actually worked for the secret service um or as an army

19:47 attache in the state department not secret service sorry but army attache was his formal title uh we don't really know what part you know we never know if if he worked you know whatever parts but we do know he did tell my father that he had intercepted he did all the morse code decoding for president kennedy and he had presidential access he was the one who actually called president kennedy um regarding the invasion of cuba before fidel took over so i grew up i never understood why my grandfather he was i always got really upset anything cuba and you know growing

20:27 up you know i always thought well he you know is it like something to do with the cuban people like is it because they came to america like i never understood what it was but the reality was he was very upset that president kennedy he felt that whatever it was did not was not implemented yes well if they had not changed their plans at christie we could have won because number one three dida had a muslim population was anti-castro uh so they could have joined us we had enough weapons of fifteen thousand soldiers aboard our ships they were

21:00 already rebels anti-castro rebels fighting in the mountains of the cambria mountains which is at the foot of the city of trinidad they would have come down and joined us only two roads led to havana uh they had piers for obsolete ships to unload all the weapons that we were carrying uh the bao pix was a very wrong place to go because there are no peers it was impossible for us to unload uh the weapons that we had if there are no peers so uh unfortunately the plan was drastically changed the plan also incorporated five air attacks to cuba prior to the day which

21:41 was april 17 1961 on april the 15th uh there was to be to be a surprise air attack using the 16 b-26 of the brigade air force by the way our brigade was called assault brigade 2506 that is a full name uh we do have a museum in miami chris if you want to go i'll give you a tour of our museum oh i would love to i'll give you a tour of anybody you want to bring anytime you want i am now director of present information of the biopics veterans association i'll be happy to give you a tour and we have a

22:14 beautiful museum and you can see i can explain there more than i'm explaining you right now to your viewers any viewer by the way that lives in miami can go it's we're open yeah i will i will definitely go and actually go with you and record just record the the piece and then the other thing i want everybody to know is we're about to get into what's going on now because i wanted frank's view of what's going on right now in ukraine and russia um exactly you know what the the like some of the comparisons and what frank actually sees what he's been paying attention to because frank

22:53 you're the most well-read man i know when my mother recently found the cia book with some notes in it you already i think you had already read the book or had already you already had that i mean which which to us you know just showed and this was like an 1800s book showing some of the illuminati plans yeah and um frank had already read it um he said you know i've already got it i've already read it you know how many books do you have in your library frank i have 12 some books at home yep so i have to live 300 years to read them all

23:27 because when people die their family just give me books i have a big house so i have books all over the place you know i just wanted people to know that you had you had already read that and so i really admired you uh your admired that all the research that you've done not only for your books but you said that you were also doing a little bit of research in terms of what has been going on in the ukraine versus russia reading into things that i don't think based on our little brief conversation that we had prior to going on air i don't think i think you're going to bring a completely new light to

24:06 your views of what is going on and some facts behind those views so that people are not shocked and they're not surprised so i definitely want you to tell what you found regarding ukraine and russia because there are so many people that do you know either they think vladimir putin is a great guy or they think vladimir putin you know as part of the trump you know trump xi jinping and vladimir putin are doing something together you know that's that's one theory that's out there another theory is that you know vladimir is all on his own and you know he's

24:43 standing alone and he's just invading the ukraine the other theory is that he's actually taking down the deep state in the ukraine and pretending like he's not so there is a lot of disinformation out there and i would like for you to tell the audience what you what you have found and what your take is you are right about this information the russians are excellent to providing us with this information they're they're masters of companies in general i mastered like that particularly in cuba i know cuba is such a prosperous nation which when people are eating cats and dogs but one of the things uh that i've seen even among conservatives including some

25:23 friends of mine that they think that putin is fighting uh the new order that is totally wrong i have here i'm going to show you i'm just going to show it putting xi jinping joint statement when the olympics started on february 4th you everybody's so cute in there and we saw chi jinping well on that very day they met and they signed a manifesto which is 17 pages long i have it right here and in here when you read it you you understand that putin is a globalist of the new order so all the things that he's a nationalist that he's fighting the deep state

26:06 all of that is absolute fake news when you read this it's too long to read it over here but i'll just mention they started what they're just talking here they want it a profound transformation of the world of the global governance of the world they mention the united nations 13 times they are in favor of the redistribution of power of wealth which is something being pushed by the new world order they are in favor of the united nations agenda 21 agenda 230 they are in favor of all this climate change uh nonsense that's being pushed by the

26:46 obama administration uh it is absolutely two globalists of the new world order we already know from before this this uh joint statement was done on february 4 2022 that china is the leader of the world economic forum and they are in davos switzerland and they are work operations from america multinational corporations and by the administration that they want to do what they call the reset of capitalism and to turn the entire world into a communist uh economy of course the communist economy where all of us are going to be slaves like in cuba but those at the top are

27:29 going to be extremely billionaires trillionaires and all of us are going to say that that is what the new world order is all about their their their byline is basically own nothing and be happy and people think that's a joke they think that's something we are making up you know as truthers or truth tellers but you can read it yourself on the united nations website that's right and when and they mentioned the united nations everywhere everywhere in in this document i began counting like 13 times and they also said that putin was going to help xi jinping take taiwan and xi jinping was going to

28:09 have putin swallow the ukraine so they already had a pact and they've been allies for it for a while and eventually maybe they won't be allies but but right now they are and and and also all of this started due to the fault of joe biden why was it that when donald trump was president for four years putin did not invade ukraine why was it that when obama was in power it was putin that took away the crimean peninsula it didn't happen on the donald trump because donald trump was a strong leader and he putin knew that he could not mess with donald trump but when he saw by then the debacle in afghanistan where we

28:50 after 20 years of war we leave behind 85 billion of our best weapons to the taliban and part of that went to iran paradise went to china they saw the weakness there weakness emboldened our enemies and they saw this man that is half demented that we have a vice president who is an idiot this is the most incompetent woman we ever had i mean she what can i tell you you have a half the mental president vice president imagine that i mean the the horrible thing that this she was saying to meet with the the president of poland i'm talking about kamala harris and and and then she they asked they asked cameron harris is

29:38 united states ready to thank refugees because now we have three million three million as of today that have left uh ukraine to most of them going to poland but they're going everywhere moldova hungary any place that they can go and so they asked her is united states prepared to take uh refugees and then she says well friends in need have to help another friend and then she began laughing with that strange laugh that she had the most the most stupid laugh you could ever saw it's still laughing like an idiot you know and then a reporter asked her a serious question i say

30:21 vice president uh camara harris what is your administration doing about inflation and the high cost of gasoline she looked at her papers to see how he could answer that couldn't find anything there turn to president do the pollen say me president poland why don't you answer that question a domestic question from america and the polish president is gonna she is so such an idiotic person so incompetent so they said well we get rid of this by then we make because it's uh he's the mentor we got rid of him to who camel harris president of states i don't know which is going to be worse the demented one

31:00 or an idiotic one but it's sad i mean the two of them died it's extremely sad and every woman out there should be really disappointed because this is what's going to go down in history as our supposedly first you know first female vice president first female president oh my gosh it's it should be an absolute embarrassment for anyone and speaking of speaking of our border frank don't you think it's extremely strange that you know americans think that people can just come over our border for free because it's an untruth it's an absolute untruth all these people coming over our border are being human trafficked over the

31:41 border they come with a price tag i know i i i'm trying to get i have a whistleblower that i've that i've working on getting you know him to be able to come forward um because obviously he's come over and you know they won't give him part of his papers even i think he's paid them to the tune of almost 19 000 to come over the border and by the way he has a united states illegal united states child over that he's just trying to come and take care of her so why do you think they're trying to leave a childless i mean a fatherless

32:16 daughter in the united states why why would you do that why would you expect to come over the border for free and not be able to take care of your child and have to pay a nineteen thousand dollar price tag for your supposable freedom but you still don't have the freedom to this day a matter of fact he faces you know possible deportation every other day well i i think one of the most dangerous things to our national security is for us to have opened completely the southern border we have over 2 million people that have entered america uh only a few or 30 percent is estimated that not i'm not even captured so we

32:57 don't know who they are they could be islamic radicals they could be the maratha uh criminals from central america that are killing people here uh they've apprehended islamic radicals from yemen so who knows if a russian or or or enemies of us have come here to do us harm it is astounding the danger to our security when donald trump really really fixed the southern boundary and he was about to complete uh the wall i think he had a few more kilometers so miles of and we have totally sealed the border so that is extremely dangerous and of course all this conversation about ukraine we're

33:39 not talking anymore about the southern border you know that's exactly right another another problem that we're having with ukraine that all the horrendous things happening here are are being relegated because it's every day ukraine ukraine ukraine but we need to talk about ukraine but we need to talk about southern border we need to talk about crying america which is out of control we we need to have a lot of problems the economy going down the drain all the things are happening we need to talk about it and also how we're losing freedom and liberty every day uh we have a justice department that wants

34:10 to prosecute the mothers who are complaining about the teaching of communism and they're being labeled by merlit garland our attorney general as domestic terrorists can you imagine that and more i can't it doesn't want the kid to be taught communism or maybe pornographic curriculum and they are domestic terrorists yes and yeah and it's shocking to me frank of of how that could happen and i know that some people they don't they really don't even believe it's happening like they won't even look into it matter of fact um you know i've had even family members and

34:45 good friends that they're like this is just disinformation you need to stop with the disinformation i'm like it's here i have videos of this i mean you just they won't even look at the videos i mean so that alone is shocking that people you know are going on with their lives and not paying attention to it at all as if it's not going it's either not affecting them already or it's not going to affect them because part of the problem when you want to colonize a country you take over the free press like they did in cuba

35:15 there was a man by the name of skousen cleon skousen who wrote a book called the naked communists and in that book he said there are 45 steps to bring a nation into communism or objectives and when you do that the country turns communists well unfortunately in america those 45 steps have already been done it was not done over the day it was only a very long time but when all of our unions now are companies we have over 100 companies in congress the main street press is totally socialistic so all of those things are horrendous signs and we i saw it in cuba and we're seeing now in america which is very scary because at least when we lost cuba

35:55 we had the united states that we could come into it but if we lose the united states where are we going to go there's no place to go well i want to ask you a couple questions there's a there's some investigative journalists and i'm going to name their names so that way everyone knows you know you can follow these journalists um if you like and and listen i like to listen to everyone's point of view because and try to put the pieces together and connect the dots so a journalist by the name of benjamin fulford has come forward and he claims that he is working with the white dragons um so in japan he's working with

36:28 the white dragons um he claims that you know within the white dragons basically he the rockefellers came to him through another source and then the white dragons came to him through another source and basically with his for his own safety he kind of had to choose the better of the two and um one of you know obviously we know that the new world order rockefeller foundation everything is set up and that that also includes the united nations people do not not understand that the united nations is nothing more than the central banking systems army so anything that that they do is going to be new world order to usher in the new world order which involves death for

37:10 all of us um because i can assure you that none of us speaking here or probably even listening are going to make it to i think it's what 500 million people are going to be left on the earth according to them and the georgia guide stones they try to repeat everything historically in the bible and you know it's satan they're absolute satanist and they are running the united nations so he claims benjamin claims that um he is working with this white dragon um establishment um out of japan and that they are fighting for a new not a new world order but

37:50 basically to to stop the new world order from coming in but also to um to just help humanity in general and when that is you know that sounds great and you know i hope it's true um but what what is your take on something like that because he claims that the everybody has been taking down except for david rockefeller do you classify this um frank as you know some of this what you're hearing is disinformation or um do you think any of it's possible well i i've never heard of the of the white dragon so i cannot make a comment on what they are okay but i do come make a comment what you mentioned about the

38:30 united nations the united nations is nothing but a club of third world nation dictators they hate america they hate israel they hate the west in general there are 57 islamic nations are part of the the u.n and all of them want to impose sharia law upon the rest of us and and the united nations is really the vehicle for the uh a new planetary government or one world government that is being pushed by all these global institutions that i mentioned before the council of foreign relations the trilateral commission they build the word group the skull and bones bohemian grove there's so many of them uh and unfortunately we have a lot of the multi-millionaires billionaires in

39:12 america that are behind that if i had all that money i would enjoy it and i won't try to enslave the world so yes but the the danger that we have is the u.n the u.n not them themselves but those that control the u.n that want to give us the the new order and now through the world economic council in davos which is which is of course uh work operations we have a lot of excellent small businesses in america they're very good and they're being taxed to they're always taxed that they've been uh given a solid regulation but we have a lot of work operations that are evil

39:51 big tech big tech is evil autobittech is evil we were mentioned before the program that you have to be careful that the youtubes that you that you have or other people have they don't erase them i i get censored all the time in facebook all the time i put articles there yeah nobody can see them and yep i put something else and that is it's not political and 500 people see it so so you know that i'm being censored how can i even one i have five thousand friends in facebook and two thousand followers and i put an article there no one person can see it so i mean of course i'm being censored

40:23 and also big tech the the common is democratic party uh the the operative of the democratic party uh all of these people and new world order guys they did a coup d'etat or they cheated in the 220 election that thrown one-handedly he won over 80 million votes and they gave it to a demented man who hardly campaigned to stay in the basement and when he had a meeting they had 200 cars trump had a million 60 000 people there and then he wins in the election because they use the electronic voting machines and all of them can be altered and the worst one

41:03 is dominion voting system that uses the software smartmatic that was invented in venezuela to cheat in the elections in venezuela and the domino voting system was used in 30 states and puerto rico and listened to this christie in 17 counties of florida so they cheated trump in florida as well in 220. but he won so big so big that even stealing boats he still ended up with 50.4 but he probably won by 55 percent and they stole thousands of votes i'm serving on election integrity committee uh and we already are uncovering all the that took place right here in florida in

41:43 220. you know we have a lot of center bought by mail they call them now sent to factories where no one lives 16 people voted on a tiny efficiency in key west that only one person can live there so we're finding we've done some canvassing in many of our counties and find lots of cheating right here in florida so you don't have to go there right here in miami-dade and right here in miami-dade too absolutely and so speaking of that frank um that and some people say well you know why does it matter this is not about trump this is not about just the national

42:17 election this is also about the down ballot um because the other thing that they do here in miami-dade is they also try to do things such as like on on even if it's just a like the mayoral election they tried to say oh well you have to wear a mask in here now you know they try to put like all these rules all these check boxes and i can tell you my vote um did not count in our last mayoral election i keep saying that over and over and over again because the person that i voted for just so happened to be the low woman on the

42:47 totem pole and she got zero votes in precinct number 569 and i'm going to keep saying it over and over again because she got absolutely zero votes and you voted for her in that place i voted for her yeah on your personal vote yes exactly they cheated on my personal vote um i have the ballot number and everything and i have not gotten any correspondence back for from our department of elections they have not responded to my request they don't even acknowledge that i've submitted things along with the mascot miami campaign i wanted to know because that campaign was rolled out so quickly i wanted to know who actually won the

43:28 campaign you know to actually that what advertising agencies did you go to what rfps that means requests for proposals they're required to be posted by law where were those posted because i have not gotten any information and my company personally was hurt by that because we could not bid on that particular advertising campaign the other thing is if you think about it the propaganda and those advertising campaigns are promoted and they're also not revoked so for instance all of a sudden covet has gone away right but nobody knows that it's gone away because guess what they do a great job of pushing these narratives out but

44:08 they don't do any retractions at all or just saying like hey guys you know our the death rate is down and you know so we're going to go ahead and like release you know these things and they don't do it and business owners don't know so if you are a business i highly recommend that you take all of your signage off because you could also be charged with crimes against humanity in the upcoming international court trials and so i want to get to that frank are you aware um that there are crimes against humanity charges that have been filed in international court on december

44:42 the 4th or the 6th against vladimir putin you mean no no um they're no not locally it's actually in international courts there's some british um british germans um there's there's an entire group of doctors and lawyers who and and scientists who filed charges in international courts against the who bill gates all the leaders um that's wonderful that's absolutely wonderful but nobody's hearing about it so no i haven't heard about it i want to follow what you're saying there have been a lot a lot of complaints of border fraud in florida in 220. not one a state attorney of the 67

45:28 county has taken anybody to court or indicted them not even one so which is why now ron desantis passed a law with the legislature establishing a unit that will have 25 attorneys to go after election fraud because none of the state attorney has intervened not even one from now anywhere so when you complain uh if if you still have that complaint and you can then maybe contact one of those 25 people that uh desantis uh is about to hire whatever and file it there because then they will investigate your your complaint okay that's good to know i'll make sure to post the link for

46:09 anyone else who may have complaints below um frank and we'll go over i want to actually have you back on to actually just talk about elections and what people can do regarding elections because people are so hungry for information on this ukrainian um you know border you know and what's actually going on the border with your article i didn't have a chance to go through your entire article that you wrote on ukraine um but by the way thank you for the research and doing it and i do plan to not only read it but i would like to

46:41 also post it for everyone else to read if that's okay with you or at least let me know that article that i sent you a couple of days ago i have updated it now with more recent information but i like to start talking about ukraine something very important that maybe a lot of your audience might not be aware when the soviet union disintegrated there were nations that had a lot of icbms and one of those was ukraine uh they had 1900 icbm with nuclear weapons can you explain what icbm means intercontinental thank you intercontinental ballistic missiles those are the ones that travel the

47:22 thousands of miles and and hit you with an atomic bomb well ukraine had 1900 intercontinental ballistic missiles which we call them icbms for short so uh not only they had they all the other countries belarus and kazakhstan had some two but not as many as ukraine so president clinton who was the president at the time he encouraged ukraine they signed what was known as the budapest memorandum of security assurances on december 5th 1994 signed by the russian federation that is a real name of russia russian federation the united states and great britain and they uh gave ukraine saying give all those weapons back to

48:10 russia and then we will guarantee your territorial integrity and your independence big mistake never trust the united states like we trusted them at the bayou pigs like shanghai say throughout the united states uh a great ally from world war ii fighting two million japanese troops and then what did we do to chiang kai-shek we declared an answer bargo and the state department allowed maasetung to take over china and became communists our ally we betrayed then qatar uh when he was president somosa was fighting the sandinistas the government sanders revolution so most have ordered weapons from israel they were coming in ships to because he was fighting a communist

48:56 insurgency in nicaragua carter told israel get those ships back don't deliver those weapons and that's how communism came in nicaragua and going back to batista on march 14 1958 he had purchased guns he was fighting the rebels as well and the eisenhower administration declares an arms embargo so if if the ukrainian government had known those things from the past they would have never given up their icbms had they kept even 10 of them russia would never have invaded them because they would fire cbm in moscow and blow up moscow but because ukraine don't have any uh they thought they could swallow ukraine a sovereign nation a nation that has had problems before it's not a

49:41 perfect nation there's corruption tell me where is no corruption in the world and the united states is corruption too let me ask you about the corruption what like as as far as the corruption goes in ukraine because i'll tell you what i've heard and you tell me what your findings are and and where we can find this information but as far as um it's my understanding there's a lot of human trafficking that has been going on in the ukraine there's bio weapons labs that are in the ukraine is this information that you have found um is that do you believe that what i've just said is disinformation or

50:21 um have you found other things well it could be true because remember the soviet union uh just like china they have unrestricted bio-weapons warfare the wuhan virus was man-made the people's liberation army in wuhan they created a virus it was not come from bad it came artificially delivered to kill people around the world particularly americans and to the night from the re-election so all these countries have those bio weapons the soviet union had them there i've read that barack obama when he was president he was funding not only did he fund the wilhelm lab together with falsey

51:01 for those two reasons both of them should be in jail for life for funding gain of function in a lab that killed 700 thousand americans and millions throughout the world yes there were those labs there now whether they were still functioning like before or whether they was just stolen pathogens that every country has i'm not sure well victoria nuland was asked a question by senator marco rubio in congress and she said yes there were laughs there she didn't say that they were bio weapons lab but they were about stolen pathogens i don't know where the truth lies i don't know whether those

51:41 labs really were just that what she's saying i cannot throw them by administration or anything that they say obviously it could have been bio-weapon labs as well but the but the what i'm going back is about this treaty that was signed assuring the territorial integrity of ukraine and then what happened putin invades crimea in violation of that treaty that russia signed the russian federation signed the treaty i violated that and then the other thing that i that i think that provoked that invasion is joe biden had trump been there we would never had an invasion of ukraine why is that first

52:20 of all binding and ignore all the u.s intelligence services that were telling him they are going to invade ukraine they are gathering over 200 thousand troops all around ukraine and he did nothing and you know why he did nothing because president celinski supported donald trump on the second impeachment he never accused donald trump of any wrongdoing so because of that biting the incentive any weapons when he became president because he hated the president of ukraine because he was helping donald trump in that second impeachment okay so that is that is a very good um that that's actually very interesting frank that you would bring that to our attention because um

53:07 you know the other theory that i've heard out there that a lot of people believe is that uh donald trump is working with vladimir putin and jojin ping even still behind the scenes um to take down the deep state in the ukraine so what you've just said actually kind of makes a lot of sense you know that we have to actually pay attention to of the alignment and why didn't he go after um and we don't really know what the truth is right like we don't we really don't even know with our own elections as who is actually you know voted in or if any of these people

53:45 um ahead of us you know that our politicians today are actually voted in we we don't know that i feel like we you know at this point none of us really know that like i'm talking about through the united states florida all the way through the entire world like we don't even know you know if our if our you know military is in control and flip some of the votes so that we would have you know this one good person of your yeah that sounds like a great theory um but the reality is i believe that people you know we have we do have to take time off from our normal jobs let's

54:18 just say just like i'm doing right now to interview you frank because it's not an easy thing to you know take an hour out of your day to and i know it's not you to do the research i mean you should be retired on a golf course right now kicking back relaxing traveling the world but you're not really able to do that because of all that's going on and you know what god bless you because of what you've had going on like in your earlier life and then having it again it's like you know i've said you know regarding even my grandparents um you know i have one set that's still alive and another set that

54:51 i'm like thank god you know they're gone because to have to re-endure some of these things over again is really really bad um so christie let me just say that donald trump has never been a russian spy never that that was the the the lies that the hillary clinton campaign uh you know you know the whole story as well as maybe maybe in european so i need to repeat it uh he was very strong against china very very strong against russia he was never a spy of any of these nations these nations did not invade any country where he was in power for four

55:31 years and he did the tremendous economic sanctions in china so how could he if he was working for china then he would be an ally of putin because those two nations are allies now uh but yeah this uh this is a total failure on the parliament administration but the worst failure is that from being energy independent we are now begging commons venezuela and iran to sell us oil yeah and he's so weak that he called the king of saudi arabia asking for more oil and then they didn't even answer his phone call that's how weak he is i want to answer the phone call

56:10 so frank that is one of the many reasons i have to wonder like is this guy really even in control i mean i i question i i don't i really don't think he's in control i mean i don't think he's in control of anything so you know i don't either i don't know i agree with you so it kind of makes you it does make you wonder you know is are there white hats a white hat military operation going on behind the scenes i mean many of the people that are listening to write on radio are going to be firm believers there's a white hat operation going on behind the scenes because there's been

56:42 many whistleblowers come forward um that have stated so you know and of course those people they could be russian disinformation i don't think they are i mean that's just my point of view that's one point of view to look at um but when it comes to you know perspectives i think it's very interesting the one fact that you brought up that um zielinski did not you know did not want donald trump impeached that is very interesting because i had not realized that before because i was for some reason i was just thinking that he was completely against donald trump in the you know

57:18 against him or just silent um during parts because the you know the other thing that we've also heard is that he is actually an actor um you know we had you know the q drops tell us early on you know if you want to believe in q drops that you know we're all watching a big huge movie what do you say to people who who believe we are watching a movie i mean do you have you entertained that thought or idea at all or do you just see that as all russian disinformation is russian this information we're not watching a real movie we're fighting a

57:51 president who was an actor also became a lawyer he was a comedian and he became president of his country and and he unlike all the presidents like the president of afghanistan at the moment that the talibans invaded he took all the gold that he had and fled well this man is not going anywhere he's in kiev or i i call it the old name kiev now they call it something else giddy whatever it's called he's there fighting every day he's fighting his wife is there the russian sent 400 mercenaries from from africa to assassinate this guy and they're trying to assassinate him he's fighting and so are the civilians

58:30 there the women and children are leaving but a lot of people are staying behind with weapons we even have twenty thousand twenty thousand uh foreigners fighting here's a picture of foreign fighters that sign up to fight the russians you see the picture below there they are all from georgia remember putin invaded georgia and took 50 of the country and declared those two provinces of the independent nation of georgia independent nations all right so these people are angry in this picture you have a former defense minister a former defense minister fighting here and there are 20 000 now from other countries fighting in ukraine and

59:16 every country is supporting ukraine who are the countries poland the estonia lithuania a tiny little country smaller than miami-dade county 2.5 million people and they are terrified because brother putin has stated he wants to bring back in russia all the former countries that were in the soviet union and that will be those three tiny little nations will be poland it'll be romania it'll be bulgaria and all of these nations are helping the ukrainians every single one of them is ukrainian because they know if putin is successful in ukraine they're going to be next and by the way if that's going to be next is world war 3 because

59:57 article 5 of nato says under 30 nations in nato it says if one nato country is attacked by an enemy nation the 30 countries goes to war and then that will be world war three if that were to happen is very alarming because you you heard that there was a base only 12 miles away from poland that was hit by rockets from a uh an aircraft that fired those rockers over the black sea and it hit destroy a base there killing 30 some people under some wounded but only 12 miles away imagine if one of those

1:00:35 rockets had hit poland imagine we have 82nd airborne soldiers maybe 30-40 miles away from the frontier of ukraine if that rocket would have killed u.s soldiers we will be going to war with beauty it will be world war iii quite dangerous because buildings army we know now is a disaster they haven't been able to subdue these people four generals have been killed with snipers they're bogged down they are unable to capture cities because these people are fighting like crazy it's their home is their land they don't want to be invaded and we are seeing that the russian armies know what people thought it was it was that good because

1:01:16 they are having great difficulties so doing a country which a smaller army more smaller they don't have the weapons that they have and they still have not won in fact i believe if putin is unable to win in ukraine in the next couple of weeks and is bogged down completely he may be thrown out of power because he promised that he's generous i'm going to take over ukraine a couple of weeks people are going to love me we're going to be welcome ukraine is ours and that hasn't happened so that would be a mistake of putin or

1:01:50 underestimating the uh the the difficulty of swallowing ukraine and it could cause him his own job it could he's 69 years old he's been in power 20 years he is a bloody dictator what he's doing in ukraine killing civilians women and children attacking schools blowing up hospitals this is exactly what he did in syria in aleppo syria he didn't in the soviet union in the area like that but we were not watching it like we're doing now on television every day so what we were doing in syria we pretty much ignored it because we were not seeing that on tv but this man is fighting i i think it's very brave

1:02:30 it's not a perfect country of course it's corruption there they may have they may have bio weapons there whatever but look at the soviet union look at russia are they perfect they're enemies of america they're alive with the chinese i mean they're part of the new world order they're worse than ukraine as far as as far as the statement that you wrote i had not read i mean i had not heard the state the the joint statement that that was made so let me tell it to you let me ask you a question regarding that statement do you think it's possible that that xingping putin

1:03:08 are putting on a front for the new world order um right before they're going to overthrow them because i mean i i can't imagine you know how they would possibly stay in power in order to be able to do what they're doing um if they didn't sign on to a joint statement so it's like okay how much was that joint statement i don't watch the mainstream media very much at all so you know and what i look at is when i do look at it i'm looking at it whenever they're repeating something like that is it's absolute propaganda so if the mainstream media is reporting it i think

1:03:43 it's propaganda that'd be really well let me let me tell you this they are in the new order because china dominates the united nations practically every major uh unit of the of the united nations is wrong by communist chinese so they are they are part of the new order because they are the ones that are going to enslave us over here and they have a lot of what we call uh useful fools useful idiots those are people that collaborate with companies and at the end they get thrown aside they get they get shot they're on the wall they put in prison i

1:04:16 think that a lot of our corporations are going to be like that but definitely they are part of new orleans because they are the new world order okay china and russia and war corporations and those other institutions that i mentioned before they are part of the world and you you look at the u.n you see that all of these agencies they're controlled by them by the chinese not by us not by israel it's by them so definitely uh they are the new world order i don't believe they are finding evil order because on the contrary they are the new order and they want to enslave humanity they want to do a reset of capitalism

1:04:54 this is openly being said i'm i'm not oh no no we know about this definitely capitalism you know and china is the leader china is the leader of the world economic forum because they think they are going to be uh on a super power we are going to be a slave nation or or a minor nation uh with the stupid leaders that we have empowered now and they're going to be in charge of the world and if they take taiwan it's over if we allow china take taiwan it's over because taiwan has the best factory for computer ships in the world and they

1:05:32 sell those computer chips to us and right now they say shorter worldwide and if they take the factory they're going to keep it for themselves and uh another economy is going to suffer immensely because we don't have enough chips for our iphones for all everything in today works with microchip computers and we don't have them our economy could collapse well and i agree with you i totally agree with that frank so i have a question to all of the the former biden supporters who may stumble upon this video if biden is in charge of our army or in charge of anything for that matter why haven't they done

1:06:14 anything why haven't they stepped in and done anything and then i'm going to say this on the flip side you know it would be nice to see something if there is some white hat operation that we might actually know something because you know it otherwise you know it does very much look like disinformation because we don't know what to believe and people are getting extremely tired and sad um with with the state of our government in general especially when we have people from our january 6th who have committed suicide you know in prison because you know these are good people who just went to protest

1:06:52 and um you know if they were just gone to protest and yes we know dc is its own country basically it is not part of the united states just like the united nations is not part of new york a lot of people don't realize that there are two different basically two different countries within our country and by the way even if the united nations comes to have even so much as an event in a space in any city they they are they get diplomatic immunity and basically their setup that place is set up as its own um country for that day or a week or

1:07:30 however long they're there so i think that's very interesting in general but frank i would love to have you back on um to get more insights of what you have um you know next week i'm going to send you some links to the ben fulford and or benjamin fulford um he's benjaminfulford.net for those of you who are wondering what i'm talking about um and then i'll make sure to post frank's links below as well and then we'll make sure to get up any articles that frank has mentioned and we'll put those in the description box but if you're just listening for the first time this video will go away um shortly after it airs on youtube it

1:08:10 will be on bit chute you'll have to go to patriotsperspective.com click on our bitshoot logo and you can watch it on bitshoot or directly on our website frank i really thank you for for taking time to um to just interview with me today and and i really look forward to having you back and your perspective is absolutely amazing it's a completely different perspective that i believe than i had actually thought of before and i'm sure that other people had as well um and um you know i am very curious to your thoughts on what some of these other journalists are saying because you seem to have a different um connectivity

1:08:50 and that you're paying attention to things on a completely different level as someone who has actually gone through the communist country takeover in the past and i believe that there's no better value than for all of us to listen to you and get your perspective on what is exactly happening do you have thank you christie thank you so much for the interview yeah and do you want to tell people um just for those listening on audio um how they can get your books um they i know that they're going to be able to go to

1:09:20 patriotsprospective.com and get them in the links but just in case they just want to go directly are they are your books on amazon are they yes most of my books are on amazon all you need to do is just go amazon books and then at the top there's a window you write my name frank de varona which is right here on the screen and that's f part 8 okay i'm going to i'm going to spell it out for everybody it's frank f r a n k and then and then his last name is de varana it's d e v a r

1:09:53 o n a sorry about that frank i just want to make sure they really know how to spell your name because there are people that are just listening and jotting down the name okay but i want to make sure when they do that and you in the window at the top of amazon you write my name it takes you to the page where i have all of my books there on sale in amazon the one that i show on the screen and you will lord is a crucial book to understand the world but i also i have one called cuba the bay of peaks the kennedy assassination the vatican which we have a common spoke

1:10:25 in power and the new world order that's and my books are lengthy they're 400 pages but they have many pictures inside maps so they're easy to read big letters too because i don't have a lot of young readers i may have people my age read my books they're great so they can understand i loved it because i felt like i tell you as i'm going through your books frank i love it that you included all the photographs because i don't have to stop and go research for those photographs and then also many of the photographs are now gone too so you you were able to capture

1:10:58 and actually put a lot of that in so we are for example in my books like the new lord i used 29 books to write my book and each of those 29 books that i use are inside my book so when i talk about the federal reserve i have three of the best books that i've written there my chapter is 20 pages long but if you want to know more about the about the federal reserve then you go and look at the creature of decade island 640 page book or you look at the end of the fed so every every i don't write like a historian because i write for general audiences and i want to make it easy on

1:11:30 whoever reads the book i would like to have more information on the on the on the on this chapter then you go to amazon and buy another book you don't like amazon you can also order my books from bars and nobles and they will order the book and then you pick it up for barcelona so uh some people hate amazon they don't want to go there but anyway amazon did not publish my book they are selling my book i had a publisher that that did my book uh from uh locally here in miami and amazon is

1:12:02 just simply selling the my books are inexpensive they are 25 each uh my books and if you see me i'll sell it to you for twenty dollars i'll give you at this camp or whatever but anyway the uh or i sell it for 25 you know whatever but uh yeah they're all there and i have another another great book called uh trump's america under siege uh that's a beautiful cover of our president being inaugurated our legitimate president donald trump not the illegitimate one that we have now so yeah by the way you mentioned who's governing america is certainly not him it could be barack

1:12:40 obama it could be uh some other uh guy in the white house mostly barack obama would be very influential uh because he always wanted to help the islamic radicals and giving 85 billion to the islamic radicals in afghanistan it was something that barack obama would have loved to do so maybe it's barack obama maybe susan rice or other people in the white house but it's certainly not this guy he reads what you put in front of him when the teleprompter is off he don't even know the name of his own secretary of defense i cannot even say the word pentagon i mean he is that's amazing how can you send this demand demanded man to meet with building when he sees me this guy's

1:13:19 is the mentor of course i can hear it i don't think it's jim carrey playing biden right because sometimes i do think i mean we're getting like a little bit of a comedy show or or maybe it's just that we absolutely have to laugh in order to you know go through another day with him either we laugh or we cry right one of the things that's right that's right frank well listen thank you so very much and i thank you for all of your hard work in your books thank you for educating all of us about your experiences because that means the world to us in general because maybe we can you know save the

1:13:53 next generation with your knowledge well thank you christian and my regards to all your thousands of listeners as well yes thank you guys thank you and be sure to click the links below make sure that you give us a like and a thumbs up if you like this video um like i said it's going to come off pretty quickly but every little link and everything counts or every little like and and um link click through counts it just lets the algorithms know that somebody's actually watching and reading so thank you thank you again and um frank i look forward to having you all next time so everybody also comment your questions to

1:14:27 frank below and i will make sure that we capture those questions for frank and we'll ask him on his next interview with us and hopefully frank we can have you on in a couple weeks if not sooner okay thank you christie bye ciao everybody bye-bye from patriots perspective and again thank you for ride on radio for um letting us share this video and this um podcast on their platform

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